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  1. vdzele

    vdzele IncGamers Member

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    Calculations

    Ok let’s clear this

    Paladin level 90 is using a Grief RW Ettin axe with weapon damage 33-66 and the “fabulous’ modifier is Damage +400. His strength is 200. He is also a zealot using these skills: Fanaticism lvl 20 (+373% damage); zeal lvl 20 (+96% damage); sacrifice as a synergy to zeal lvl 20 (+240% damage) and vengeance for physical immune’s level 20 (+184% elemental damage). All other modifiers from his gear are ignored. The only thing I am concerned is the real damage he will deliver when hitting. I never made a Grief RW so I don’t know what’s displayed on CS, though I saw a pic of a weapon where this modifier is not calculated in weapons total damage.

    a ) He is using zeal, sacrifice and fanaticism

    Minimum Damage = (Weapon Minimum Damage + (+x To Minimum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Minimum Damage = (33 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Minimum Damage = 33 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Minimum Damage = 33 x 10.09
    Minimum Damage = 332
    Minimum Damage (+400) = 732

    Maximum Damage = (Weapon Maximum Damage + (+x To Maximum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x % Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Maximum Damage = (66 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Maximum Damage = 66 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Maximum Damage = 66 x 10.09
    Maximum Damage = 665
    Maximum Damage (+400) = 1065

    b ) He is using zeal, sacrifice and fanaticism

    Minimum Damage = (33 + 400) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Minimum Damage = 433 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Minimum Damage = 433 x 10.09
    Minimum Damage = 4368

    Maximum Damage = (66 + 400) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Maximum Damage = 466 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Maximum Damage = 466 x 10.09
    Maximum Damage = 4701

    c ) He is using vengeance and fanaticism

    Minimum Damage = (Weapon Minimum Damage + (+x To Minimum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Minimum Damage = (33 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 373 / 100)) x 1
    Minimum Damage = 33 x 6.73
    Minimum Damage (normal attack) = 222 + 400 (physical)
    Minimum Damage (vengeance attack) = 622 + 33 x 1.84 x 3 = 804

    Maximum Damage = (Weapon Maximum Damage + (+x To Maximum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x % Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Maximum Damage = (66 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 373 / 100)) x 1
    Maximum Damage = 66 x 6.73
    Maximum Damage (normal attack) = 444 + 400 (physical)
    Maximum Damage (vengeance attack) = 844 + 66 x 1.84 x 3 = 1208

    d ) He is using vengeance and fanaticism

    Minimum Damage = (33 + 400) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 373 / 100)) x 1
    Minimum Damage = 433 x 6.73
    Minimum Damage (normal attack) = 2914 (physical)
    Minimum Damage (vengeance attack) = 2914 + 433 x 1.84 x 3 = 5304

    Maximum Damage = (66 + 4000) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 373 / 100)) x 1
    Maximum Damage = 466 x 6.73
    Maximum Damage (normal attack) = 3136 (physical)
    Maximum Damage (vengeance attack) = 3136 + 466 x 1.84 x 3 = 5708

    e ) He is using vengeance and fanaticism

    Minimum Damage = (33 + 400) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 373 / 100)) x 1
    Minimum Damage = 433 x 6.73
    Minimum Damage (normal attack) = 2914 (physical)
    Minimum Damage (vengeance attack) = 2914 + 33 x 1.84 x 3 = 3096

    Maximum Damage = (66 + 4000) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 373 / 100)) x 1
    Maximum Damage = 466 x 6.73
    Maximum Damage (normal attack) = 3136 (physical)
    Maximum Damage (vengeance attack) = 3136 + 66 x 1.84 x 3 = 3500

    I am interested which of these is correct and what does LCS display in that case
     
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    RTB IncGamers Member

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    Zeal+Sacrifice+Fanat
    433 * (1 + 2 + 2.4 + 3.73 + .96) = 433 * 10.09 = 4368
    466 * (1 + 2 + 2.4 + 3.73 + .96) = 466 * 10.09 = 4701

    Vengeance+Fanat
    physical
    433 * (1 + 2 + 3.73) = 433 * 6.73 = 2914
    466 * (1 + 2 + 3.73) = 466 * 6.73 = 3136
    elemental
    33 * 1.84 * 3 = 33 * 5.52 = 182
    66 * 1.84 * 3 = 66 * 5.52 = 364
    total: 3096 - 3500

    The LCS adds Damage +x after skill ed% IIRC.
     
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    vdzele IncGamers Member

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    Thanks RTB, this is clearing all doubts about this issue once and for all
     
  4. HeavAngel

    HeavAngel Paladin Moderator

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    Thanks for posting this in a thread. :thumbsup:

    I made this thread a sticky to make it easier on the members asking for help on this.

    So, there shouldn't be any more questions on this subject.
     
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    I cant find a thread about calculations on Grief smite's phantom damage)

    just like what the title said... i cant find a link or a thread i wanna know my damage with
    lvl43smite/ lvl43holyshield/ lvl29 fanaticsm/ 204 str/ 341damage grief/ uphoz 45-45smite damage

    before u close this thread can u post a link that has smite calculation
     
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    RTB IncGamers Member

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    Slvl 43 Smite: +645%
    Slvl 43 Holy Shield: +149-152 dmg
    Slvl 29 Fanat: +526% dmg
    204 str = +204%
    Upped HoZ: 46 - 46
    Grief: +341

    Min Smite Damage = (Shield Min Damage + (Damage +x) + (Holy Shield Min Damage)) * (1 + (Strength + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100)))
    Max Smite Damage = (Shield Max Damage + (Damage +x) + (Holy Shield Max Damage)) * (1 + (Strength + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100)))
    (46 + 149 + 341) * (1 + 2.04 + 6.45 + 5.26) = 536 * 14.75 = 7906
    (46 + 152 + 341) * (1 + 2.04 + 6.45 + 5.26) = 539 * 14.75 = 7950 (7928 avg)

    Avg dmg to a character with 50% dr:
    7928 * 0.17 * 0.5 = 673.**
     
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    Dante Sparda Banned

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    thanks 7.9k damage or 600 on pvp WOW...
    all i gotta ask heavangel is to put that calculation to sticky so ppl dont have to ask this again
     
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    HeavAngel Paladin Moderator

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    Added to the Calculations Thread.
     
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    HeavAngel Paladin Moderator

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    Now added to the Guide Thread
     
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