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c/c ww bp question

Discussion in 'Assassin' started by cooltak, Feb 27, 2004.

  1. cooltak

    cooltak IncGamers Member

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    c/c ww bp question

    hi,
    can someone answer me ww brake point question please.

    im sure that ww pb for barb is 15/35/65/

    my claws are:
    runic chaos (-30) with 35ias form fury
    Scissors Suwayyah fury (0) with 40 ias from fury
    runic eth bartuck's (-30)
    rare eth suwayyah (0)

    do i hit last bp(65) if i use runic chaos on LEFT hand?(not right hand)
    or everything is same.

    coz i feel it hit best if i use runic chaos on left hand.
    but im not too sure about that.

    does anyone know about this?
    thx
     
  2. iolo99

    iolo99 IncGamers Member

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    I copied this thread from Amazon Basin forum
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    Does the WW need the same ias breakpoints as a Barb's and does +skills to Barbs increase the skill?

    -Ruvanal-

    No, it does not use the same breakpoints as the barbarians.
    The calculations are based off of the values stored for the FramesPerDirection and AnimationSpeed from the Animdata.d2 file. The assassins have "much different setting" than what the barbarians end up using.

    Net results should be
    CODE

    assassin ht1 (claw attack)
    frame
    delay WIAS-WSM
    12 -33 and lower
    10 -32 to -25
    8 -24 to -10
    6 -9 to +12
    4 +13 and higher

    With the runeword giving 35% IAS and the slowest claw having a WSM of +10; you should always be at the fastest breakpoint when using only the Chaos runeword claw. It is if you are dual wielding with another claw that you may occasionally run into needing to worry about not being at the fastest breakpoint. See the discussions in the barbarian forums for what happens when dual wielding and tables for what these frame delays translate into.
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    I use chaos suwayyah and um'ed bartuc runic talon.
    If you are a dual wielder, each claw must satisfy bp +13.
    (just like barbarian using two one-handed axe needs both weapon +35.)

    runic chaos (-30) with 35ias ==> +65 / waste of 52 ias
    Scissors Suwayyah fury (0) with 40 ias from fury ==> +40
    runic eth bartuck's (-30) ==> +30
    rare eth suwayyah (0) ==> +0, need at least +13 ias

    It doesn't matter which claw on right hand if you use claw/claw.
    Only comes when you are also considering martial arts (like dragon claw and dragon talon) and trap laying speed...
    these speeds are affected from a claw on your gloves (right hand)

    Note: trap laying speed was obviously faster when I placed chaos suwayyah on glove than bartuc runic talon on it.
     
  3. cooltak

    cooltak IncGamers Member

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    oh, so nice. perfect. exactilly what i wanted :)
    thx so much iolo.
     
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    hihi, but can you post the ias of dragon talon kick damage pls, bcos i m using kick damage for my main attack, thx
     
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