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bvc's left click attack

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Loptop, Sep 3, 2006.

  1. Loptop

    Loptop IncGamers Member

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    bvc's left click attack

    concentration or beserker?
    concentration is uninterupptable attack which is good.
    berserker is magic dmg and interupptable.
    berseker might be better vs boner/druid but u could lost due to interuppt attack
     
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    Both.

    Yes, I have both of them on Left Click. Zerk as default (A) and Conc to duel prison abusing boners (X IIRC). They both have their good sides. Zerk is good for telezerking non-block boners that do not abuse prisons for example, whereas Conc is better for the prison abusers. Also, Zerk is good for IM abusing summoners or boners that use IM and prisons.

    Heck, that's not even all the hotkeys I got:
    A:Zerk
    S: WW
    D: Leap
    F: Teleport
    G: Unsummon
    Q: Howl
    E/R: Lifetap/Guided Arrow
    X: Conc

    However, right now my R button is clean due to the annoyingness of switching from run/walk with my mouse (and of course D2 let's me hotkey to the sidebuttons but then it won't take effect).

    And yes, I use all those things frequently. Howl versus anything with summons, WW, Leap and Teleport versus everything, Lifetap versus some Windies or Summoners, Guided arrow vs. defensive Trappers, ES sorcs, Hammerdins and generally annoying people, Conc and Zerk have been explained. NOTE: Only Conc and Zerk are on Left-click!!!
     
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    I rarely if ever intentionally use left click, so I assign conc to it just in case something is under my cursor when I'm walking/running -- better to use conc in most cases since it doesn't leave you defence-less.
     
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    I just use Zerk it seems ok to me.
     
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    I have berserk assigned onto left-click.

    People tell me that I should zerk with left-click, but I can't seem to get it to work as you always have to hold-down shift (ctrl in my case).

    Tele-zerking with right-click worked perfectly fine for me though.
     
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    IIRC, you cannot teleport while having a namelock AND holding down shift. That's why most people prefer Unsummon, as it will automatically stop you.

    Myself I find tele-zerking hard. It seems that when holding down left click, the right click does not respond as well as it does when not holding down left click.
     
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    yes zerk is good
    but i get owned a lot since its i got interuppted in middle of attack....
     
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    Conc does not get interrupted.
     
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    whats about ias breakpoints of both attack ?
    and how much conc strieks to kill bone armor?
     
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    Zerk will be 9 frames with Beast, IIRC 10-12 when under the slow of a Golem.

    No idea about Conc IAS.

    As for the hits, 1-2 with Grief and that will break it. But that's not of concern, the fact is that if you try zerking a bonemancer who camps in walls and spams spirits, you're 100% guaranteed to be interrupted and thus die.
     
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    i experienced that :(
    thats why i needed info about conc
     
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    I got experience with both versus a bonewall camping boner who's got no block, 125/86 and 2.7k life. Not funny. Zerk meant automatic death unless I telezerked right after Leap, which is hard.
     
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    maybe waitng in house to let him run out of mana would help^^
     
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    I don't duel like that. I prefer to just stay off-map for a good deal of time. Also this guy tends to use an Insight merc and his clay golem, so concing him will end up BAD. Now if he digs his +1 decrepify wand, I'm feeling worse .
     
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    so much about his dueling skills
     
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    Well, he actually is skilled, he just decides to sometimes use that strategy.

    Most of the time he teleports in a straigh/zigzag patter and then spams spirits to a direction, teleports around of them to the direction they're headed and spams another bunch, hoping that I teleport in the middle and get stuck.

    And yes, he's a no-block necro. He's very hard to beat for me for the reasons that A) I'm not that good versus Bonemancers due to the lack of good ones B) He knows me and my BvC too well (aka the strategies, life, mana, fcr, etc.)
     
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    uh yes bone can be mean for bvc
    but i find unsummon doing wonders

    i have more problems with godly desynch :embarassed:
     

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