BvC's: How you take on a skilled bone necro?

[swiftrunner]

Watching Romper vs Blobswannabe would be a very interesting matchup.

Me wants to watch Romper & Blobswnb fight. rop:

 

[moonlike]

how do you know how i play? I'm problaby as aggresive a dueler as it gets you can ask phyxerial or luis. When i die to barbs it's cuz i tele on that too much and commit suicide. also don't make any farfetched claims of how you can beat this and that if you are gonna no longer plays as a prexcuse for dodging. A stormshield using barb can't even break a nec's bone armor,any one who's dueled more than once or twice knows that's bs.

wtf ?
i never told that i use stormshield(i always use beast), but necro using storm+125fcr/86fhr max bloc has max dr its alot harder than ur no block necro(because he can tank u some), thats funny when i play against no block 4k/86fhr they can't afford playing offensive vs me , how the **** u can tele around me on my screen when i leap tele ww u ? It just wont happen no block necros must be offscreen most time ,every nec who tried play on my screen died ,even with 152fhr u stay in 19 frames in the same spot i tele ww in 14frames and have slight margin of speed(golem is usually leaped and cant take hit for u)
sry but i never died to a offensive necro with no block, usualy i die when i chase him and run into many ibs.

 

[jokermwx]

The one thing that sticks out to me from the video is the number of times the Barb mana pots. :scratch:

 

[Ce Olba]

The one thing that sticks out to me from the video is the number of times the Barb mana pots. :scratch:

And someone's supposed to care? Not meant as an offensive comment, just a thought. Of course a barb will manapot, no dueling with no mana regen and 700 mana.

 

[jokermwx]

Not offended.:wink3:

Of course a barb will manapot, no dueling with no mana regen and 700 mana.

Well why stop with mana? Health or rejuv will be used also. He wanted to show a duel when a Barb beats a Nec, but he has to pot to keep teleing, WW'ing, and leaping all over the place w/ over 6000+ hit pts.

I belive any build can beat the other, and there is no way to know if the duels are honest. I have come to the conclusion that E1 cheats.

 

[jake007]

I belive any build can beat the other, and there is no way to know if the duels are honest. I have come to the conclusion that E1 cheats.

Because there's general consciencious that Health potion and Rejuv / Town-run should not be used in a duel where both sides appreciate a fair duel. It's also quite balant if one-side decides to use healing pot / rejuv (as indicated by your health-bar).

No classes out there (other than most melee/sorceress) can duel without mana pots. A given fact.

 

[Neuroff]

And you think the Nec isn't potting while constantly teleing and spamming bone spirits? Only people who still live in .09 don't use mana pots.

 

[jake007]

Well, I'm coming to the conclusion that Defensive Bone Necros > BvC.

It's simply because bone necro is such an easy class to play defensively. Teleport back 3 screens, spam spirit > teleport back 3 screens, spam spirit > rinse and repeat. That's all they do and there's nothing I can do about it.

I've watched the In-Crow video, the ones I fought abuse spirit way more than In-Crow. They teleport at least 3 screen before doing the spam.

 

[KaythonXE]

BvCs do bad against high defense and/or max block opponents, as they clearly rely on AR.

 

[Romper Stomper]

BvCs do bad against high defense and/or max block opponents, as they clearly rely on AR.

Fortunately none of those opponents save for other barbs have good attacks.

 

[Romper Stomper]

I've watched the In-Crow video, the ones I fought abuse spirit way more than In-Crow. They teleport at least 3 screen before doing the spam.

To be more defensive in nightmare requires a mana pool. In most of those duels the necro had 1-2 mana pots left at the end. For a necro to play defensive, a lot of mana is required.

 

[Gotcha]

I have to agree with Mike on the mana issue. Def = lots of mana but a good bone nec is one of the BVC hardest duels IMO. I am not great with a BVC but have played necs forever. IMO it is important for the nec to reach 1300+ mana for PVP to play def. That said I still give Necs the upper hand in most all BVC situations with a few exceptions (Maybe Mike/Mojo, etc.).

 

[Phesto]

Well why stop with mana? Health or rejuv will be used also. He wanted to show a duel when a Barb beats a Nec, but he has to pot to keep teleing, WW'ing, and leaping all over the place w/ over 6000+ hit pts.

I belive any build can beat the other, and there is no way to know if the duels are honest. I have come to the conclusion that E1 cheats.

Why stop with mana? Mana makes things go, health doesn't. Simply being "alive" proves little, "killing" your opponent proves plenty; one usually takes effort, the other does not; one requires mana, the other does not. Hardly anyone wants to play with health pots because it's basically just a waste of time (i.e. worthless); if you're losing you're losing, if you've lost you've lost.

Since when does beating someone mean winning without using mana pots? Characters' skills function on mana, so what do you propose one does when their character runs out of it? Mm, sounds like fun to me - sounds like total idiocy, too. And I bet that Necro didn't use a single pot!

If any build could beat any build you'd see many more different builds in PvP these days. This game's been around for quite a long time and there're pretty simple reasons why you don't see tons of different builds being successful.