bvc will win most of duels , tap will matter alittle but still not a big factor in my experience. when i say tap will matter a bit , i mean when the barb is at low life there is no room for mistakes if tap had triggered, tap can give advantage to the smiter if both the barb and the smiter are at low life.Darksteel said:Assuming both have the same wealth, skill, and computer who usally wins this match-up? I could see it going either way myself, it seems like it would depend on if the smiter is using lifetap or not.
well no bvc that duels right will make long enough ww so you could get infront and smite. just trying to say there is a way of ww-ing a smiter its not just ww and w/e happens.uptoolayte said:The ONLY BvC's that win against my smiter are the ones that fire at me with a bow while I'm running around. If I stand in one place, they fire the bow, the WW away when I get near. The only way I can hit them is to get in front while they WW and smite as they go through me.
I also have a smiter/hdin and thats a little easier but that bow makes all the difference, keeps me on the move and drains my life.
not truediablotradez said:50/50 but whoever is better at mind games will win or whoever makes more mistakes usually its in favor of smiter because of life tap and high defense 40k+
i just gave you example how with items a barb has much more the upper hand than the smiter.diablotradez said:if your using doom slow fade then its just a duel about whose more bm no one will die unless out of pots, and doom wont work vs griefpb smiter with enough ias anyway i still say its 50/50 depends on playing style
I find 15k AR is fine to hit almost anyone I duel. As I understand it anymore than 30k defense makes very little differance to your chance to be hit. I did have a bookmark to an AR /Defense/chance to hit calculator, can't seem to find it.mainaman said:i imagine faded barb with fortitude and coa with 25k ar-> he will hit you alot , he will have max dr, your life tap will last only seconds, he will do much more dmg than you.
But when you swap to the PB your outranged. I feel abit cheap using dual dooms vs smiters though.diablotradez said:and doom wont work vs griefpb smiter with enough ias anyway i still say its 50/50 depends on playing style
whats wrong you a barb fan? did i trash your idol barb? given equal skill wealth like the op said the duel is still 50/50Camden said:diablotradez, duel a GOOD barb. That will prevent you from rambling on with your clueless idiocy
doesnt really matter if you can desync smite the hole time it be like desync ww vs desync smitehardnfast said:I find 15k AR is fine to hit almost anyone I duel. As I understand it anymore than 30k defense makes very little differance to your chance to be hit. I did have a bookmark to an AR /Defense/chance to hit calculator, can't seem to find it.
But when you swap to the PB your outranged. I feel abit cheap using dual dooms vs smiters though.
:brainiac:diablotradez said:doesnt really matter if you can desync smite the hole time it be like desync ww vs desync smite
i was just making example of the fact that high defense dont mean much when one can get decent ar. i beat smiters with only 10k arI find 15k AR is fine to hit almost anyone I duel. As I understand it anymore than 30k defense makes very little differance to your chance to be hit. I did have a bookmark to an AR /Defense/chance to hit calculator, can't seem to find it.
what im saying is when both are equal gear skill what will really happend is who makes more mistakes.mainaman said::brainiac:
i dont know what kind of barbs are you dueling , but
how are you going to smite a barb that is in desynch ww motion? as if you will know where he is atm? and what the hell is desynch smite please enlighten us
anyway BvC fans or not thruth is a bvc that knows what they do win against smiters most of the time
i was just making example of the fact that high defense dont mean much when one can get decent ar. i beat smiters with only 10k ar
truth is with a good stack the duel becomes bvc vs smiter again but its more trickier and interestingHappyAssassin said:I'm amazed that this is a discussion. BvCs beat smiters all the time, it takes a VERY skilled smiter to beat a decently played barb.
The really tricky matchup is V/T vs. BvC, that's where the debate is really worth while.