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BvA viable PvP char?

Discussion in 'PvP' started by Shaigon, Aug 19, 2010.

  1. Shaigon

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    BvA viable PvP char?

    Currently lvling a barb but I wanted to try a different route other than a pure BvC.

    The BvA would essentially be a BvC (relatively the same gear) but would use Stormshield/Grief zerker as main weapon combo. Only difference from a BvC is that he would have max block and max DR. This would give him a better edge vs melee chars and would still be able to take down the majority of casters. He will still be hitting the fcr/fhr breakpoints.

    I would still carry a beast zerker in my stash that I could swap out the SS for if needed. The only problem I see with this build is sacrificing vit for dex (needed for max block).

    Thoughts/opinions?
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    They're definitely a viable build. You didn't mention it, but they also have an easier time with bowas due to the DR and block.



    For dex, you can have some in your helm slot (or at least some + life so it isn't so bad when stating dex), in the shield (similar life / dex to help).

    IIR, with stating and charms, they can get anywhere from 5-6 something K life with max block. That's still enough to take on melee and casters.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    In short, BvA's wouldn't exist if they weren't viable.

    The biggest difference I see between a bvc and bva is one is well equipped for blocking, as both can still dual-wield weapons.

    The only class that comes to mind with a clear advantage is BvB, which can be offset by skill levels and chance.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    Any suggestions as to what I should socket my Arreats and SS with? Ed/max jewels?

    Arreats will be my main helm as I see no real use for COA with this build, it's generally only used for the DR which I will already have. I can get skills/fhr from Arreats. I may get one to keep in stash for when I'm dual wielding but meh.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    i socket arreat with 9 dex/ed jewel and storm with eld for extra blocking and less dex required for max block
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    My barbarian has max block with stormshield with base dex. You don't need to sacrifice life to have max block. Can be something to think about.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    It also takes quite a bit of + dex on items. ;)
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    Yes but it's not really hard to achieve, just some stashed stuff.



     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    With BOTD? No thanks.

    Arreat's gets 9 dex/15 res jewel, Stormshield gets Eld.

    BvBs you will mainly beat by teleporting around and shooting them with Widowmaker.

    You WILL need COA, since you will only use the Stormshield against bowazons, Fury druids, other barbs and chargers.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    I don't use botd, I use grief.



     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    biko do you mind telling me what kind of items you use for keeping base dex while getting max block??
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    Crafted safety amulet, arreats, ed/dex jewel in stormshield, shadowdancer, 2 ravenfrost, ik gloves.

    Can be done with various setups but this is probably the one I like the most.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    You'll want Highlords.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    Actually no, in the situations where I use max block (vs bowazons and in tvt, and vs other barbarians) a crafted amu is better (except for vs other barbarians, then I'd want to use angelics, but I'm no bvb barb anyway so it doesn't really matter).

    Highlords is my main amu in other cases ofcourse though.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    i m thinking to respec my bva again to use elded whitstan shield. eni+coa+verdungo will give 50 % dr
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    I considered that also but I came to the conclusion that stormshield > whitstan because of the good helm options that give dex (arreats in my case but it's also possible to use 30 dex 3 socket). I also have max dr since I use ber in arreats and I can use arach/tg/whatever as belt.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    I think some investment in dex couldn't hurt, as I don't think you can get 40 fcr, and I feel just too slow without it. I don't know how mutch ik gloves give (20dex?), but wouldn't trang's+arach be better for those few points.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    Ditto on the dex. It's not enough to not use a Highlord's IMO.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    40 fcr > 20 fcr.

    However, 20 is enough for my max block setup. For me, it's not worth pumping dex. Maybe it is for you. Vs bowazons fcr is good to have ofcourse but I don't think it's necessary to have 40 if you have max block anyway. It should be quite an easy duel. And in tvt all you do is leap anyway.

    I'm quite sure you CAN get max block and 40 fcr with base dex though with some funky setup involving 3 sock 30 dex helm or similar. You could try a crafted amulet with 20 fcr 20 dex also.
     
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    Re: BvA viable PvP char?

    The point of my post was that having it at base is nice, but not necessary. It's not worth it to me to lower the damage by that much.
     

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