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Bramble Armor is BM or not ??

Discussion in 'Druid' started by pineapple_king, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. pineapple_king

    pineapple_king IncGamers Member

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    Bramble Armor is BM or not ??

    As the topic said. It has thorns aura, does u guys consider bm in legit pvp ??
     
  2. Asheron

    Asheron IncGamers Member

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    No,seeing as thorns got nerfed big-time ,it can't really be considered BM in any way. o_o
     
  3. alainpp66

    alainpp66 IncGamers Member

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    I personally say Yes. Reducing Leech even further is unfair Vs melee.

    Isn't it just BM to use skills not associated with your class?? Ex: Amp from Atma's Ammy or Charges.

    BM in my mind.
     
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    Pent IncGamers Member

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    I don't see why it would be bm, since thorns really does very little damage
     
  5. Kirsty

    Kirsty The Order of Dii Guild Member

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    Thorns actually got a boost compared to 1.09 because the DR is capped to 50%.

    Now suppose you have a level 20 thorns, then you have 1010% damage return. That is lowered to 1/10th of the value because it's pvp and it is affected twice by 50% Damage Reduction. What you're left with is still 25% damage returned.

    The important part is if this damage is also affected by the pvp penalty. If it is, then the damage counters about 4% to 5% leech. If not, then it counters 25% leech. I think it still looks significant to me either way.
     
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    it is effected.
     
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    Soepgroente IncGamers Member

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    And for that reason it's rather useless ;)

    @alain i'd only consider something BM if it's overpowered. Atma's triples your damage -> overpowered. Life tap (draculs, exile) fills your life bulb in 1 or 2 hits -> overpowered. Chance to cast enchant on lavagout for 40 fire damage (in .09, the added ar in 1.10 is debetable) doesn't matter.
     
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    VoodooCamel IncGamers Member

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    It depends if you duel in a private league or not. If you duel in public, there are teleporting hammer pallas and teleporting bonemancers, so if you want to use Bramble who is going to complain? The guy teleporting around?

    Also, 60% of most public duelers are either: Hammer Pallas/ FoH pallas/ Necro

    so it doesnt make that big of a difference.
     
  9. ~Kazama Fury~

    ~Kazama Fury~ IncGamers Member

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    for private dueling, i would consider it BM

    for pub dueling, anything goes, some if not most, do not have the decency of respect.
     
  10. Pent

    Pent IncGamers Member

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    chance to cast enchant could be considered BM
    or if you used demon limb for the lvl 23 enchant (tons of AR)
    its using another skill you dont have to dramatically increase your chances of "pwning" in pvp.
     
  11. Killfrenzy

    Killfrenzy IncGamers Member

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    meh i fought a rabies druid with bramble yesterday. still fireclawed him up good
     
  12. alainpp66

    alainpp66 IncGamers Member

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    Yes... and you're an elemental Damage attacker... meaning Thorns has very little effect on you, KillFrenzy.

    Not the same thing as a Maul Bear, Conc Barb, Zealot....

    In legit PvP... as was stated in the Question, Meaning Private Legit Dueling leagues, it's not right if you're facing Physical Damage melee chars. Ranged/Ranged Casters is fine.

    In Public Games... as long as you're not hacking his comp to freeze him and win the duel (or using 3rd party programs), anything goes in terms of Gear or Strat. It's basically just a bar fight... not a gentleman's duel.
     
  13. Killfrenzy

    Killfrenzy IncGamers Member

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    yeah i know. I guess i kinda meant to say that fireclaws works nicely on them. My brain only really starts working in the afternoon
     

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