Bowazon dealing with Iron maiden and Physical Immunes ifra

CaimDark

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Bowazon dealing with Iron maiden and Physical Immunes

I'm about to go up against the oblivion knights in act four, and I have 3 skill points to spend. What should I pick to deal with their iron maiden and, later, the physical immunes?
 

MysticDragon

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Iron Maiden does nothing to ranged attacks. Does the Fire arrow bug still work? If so, use that. 1 point is enough. Or use Magic arrow.
 

CaimDark

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MysticDragon said:
Iron Maiden does nothing to ranged attacks. Does the Fire arrow bug still work? If so, use that. 1 point is enough. Or use Magic arrow.
I thought IM affected physical attacks, ranged or melee. Good to know i'm safe!
As for the "fire arrow bug", I've know ideia. I've just come back to the game after a 5 years hiatus.
As for the phys immunes, magic arrow doesn't seem like a good ideia, as it only converts a tiny percentage of the damage into magic damage, the rest remains physical. How about Ice arrow, or freezing arrow? I would have to spend an extra skill point to get freezing arrow, but the damage seems to be a lot bigger than ice arrow's. Is it worth it?
 

NASE

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If want to have crowd control on PI, then you'll need freezing arrow, or lichting fury anyway. These are the only few that can do it properly. On the other hand, if you don't need that, chose either magic arrow, cold arrow or fire arrow. If you invest more points, more phisical damage will be converted. They all have there up sides.

P.S. fire/cold arrow lvl does not convert 50%, atleast not according the data, so a one points wonder (bug?) is not an option.
 

doraemon

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you can always throw a reapers toll on ur merc (decrepify)

i don't really encounter that many PI's anymore, i don't bother running arcane or tower.

just wondering, what bow u are using? there are many bows out there that adds a stack of elemental dmg
 

CaimDark

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I'm still at level 34, I'm using a bow called Skystrike. To my utter joy, I have a Buriza safely stored in my stash impatiently waiting for me to reach level 41!!!! I know I won't be seeing PI for a while, but since I was going to ask about Iron maiden now anyways I also asked about the PI.
As for the merc, that could work, but I don't want to depend on him. PI start showing up in hell, and for some reason my mercenaries don't like to stay alive for long in hell...

n the other hand, if you don't need that, chose either magic arrow, cold arrow or fire arrow. If you invest more points, more phisical damage will be converted. They all have there up sides.
No, I think pumping points in any of those to get more damage converted is a waste of valuable skill points.

I guess I'll just stick with freezing arrow. Anybody got a better ideia?

Doraemin, what bows pack a nice elemental punch?
 

Leohappy

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there is no real cheap solution to fixing the issue with physical immunes
either you dedicate to it or forget it entirely - just use the base level magic arrow or cold arrow in emergencies
it will take a while but you won't need to waste pts into otherwise useless skills (and as mentioned above, pi's aren't that common in areas where bowzons usually play-like pit,flayer,travi,cow,cs,...)

other solution would include using sources of amplify dmg, like atma's ammy,wws or reaper's on merc
 

windwingwind

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If you dont mind a "bowazon" throwing javalins, putting a pack of javalin and 20 points in LF work wonder.
 

lagalot

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As for the merc, that could work, but I don't want to depend on him. PI start showing up in hell, and for some reason my mercenaries don't like to stay alive for long in hell...
Reapers toll does really work well on merc ...kinda makes them 3/4 invincible and nulls out all PIs for the user.Very nice merc weapon for a zon to have.
 

windwingwind

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lagalot said:
Reapers toll does really work well on merc ...kinda makes them 3/4 invincible and nulls out all PIs for the user.Very nice merc weapon for a zon to have.
Definitely not "all" PIs. But yea Reaper's toll rocks. After a few weeks with Pride in my merc I couldn't help switiching back to Reaper. It's just awesome. :laugh:
 

RSTwoRuss

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Once you get to Level 60, use Atma's Scarab amulet:

5% Chance To Cast Level 2 Amplify Damage On Striking
20% Bonus To Attack Rating
+40 Poison Damage over 4 seconds
Poison Resist +75%
+3 To Light Radius
Attacker Takes Damage of 5

That Amplify will DOUBLE your damage AND remove the PI of most monsters - just remember that STRAFE seems to be better for chance-to-cast (and knockback) than Multi. Before discovering Atma's my amas were always a bit weak and slow, but now, once that Amplify kicks in ( which won't take at all long - you will learn to love that WHOOMPH sound when it does!) she scythes everything down really nicely.
 

foromir

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I use a WWs and when Amp dam triggers (often with strafe) there is no problem with pi. Superdave rerolls the Valkyrie to get one with Amp Dam.

Foromir
 

CaimDark

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If you dont mind a "bowazon" throwing javalins, putting a pack of javalin and 20 points in LF work wonder.
I don't mind a bowazon throwing javelins, but I mind a lot wasting 20 skill points!
I don't have Atma's Scarab yet, so I guess I'll just put a point in freezing arrow and that's it.
 

Evrae Altana

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CaimDark said:
I don't mind a bowazon throwing javelins, but I mind a lot wasting 20 skill points!
Bowazons usually have a ton of skill points left over anyways, and a skill that helps you dispatch immunes with ease is hardly a "waste", but it's up to you.
My own bowazon runs Chaos Sance and Pits, so I don't encounter very many physical immunes save for the occasional random boss here and there, and those I make short work of using my one-point Magic Arrow.
 

windwingwind

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CaimDark said:
I don't mind a bowazon throwing javelins, but I mind a lot wasting 20 skill points!
I don't have Atma's Scarab yet, so I guess I'll just put a point in freezing arrow and that's it.
One of my zons has these skills distribution:

20 Starfe
20 Penetrate
20 Valky
20 LF
some pre-req

I still have skill points which I dont know where to spend. Yet that's enough for me to roam anywhere in hell. Any PI pack is a joke since LF get stronger when monster pack grow larger. In fact it kills non-LIs faster than starfe most of the time.

You call that a waste? :shocked:
 
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