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Bow comparison on physical damage output for the pitrunning Strafeazon

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  1. sasja

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    Bow comparison on physical damage output for the pitrunning Strafeazon

    I've made a pure Strafeazon, especially tailored for the upgraded Buriza, to mf in the pits. She works quite well, but even with maxed Penetrate, her chance to hit is too low in full mf - in part, of course, because her dex suffers from the str req of the Colossus Crossbow.

    A little late, I then decided to do some number crunching to see which bow is the best for an mf-zon in the pits to decide the best bow to build a pitrunning Strafeazon around - would the extra damage of an upgraded GSA with its inherent AR bonus beat the ITD Eaglehorn, or would the extra strength requirement make it less desirable, how much do the +stats on BotD really mean etc. What I wanted to know was, which bow has the highest damage output.

    An mf bowazon doesn't wear a lot of ias (though I've tested with ias up to 145, so if you want more ias, just read the right column), +skills or other damage enhancers that bowazons normally get to wear - instead she'll stock up on mf gear. A usual setup would include the +skills from shako and Skullder's, so the setup to test would be about +3 skills. I thought I'd share my findings with you, because even though they are for a special case, a lot of people seem interested in that special case. I've already posted the analysis here, but I since discovered some errors and had some help from other posters, so I think the numbers are now pretty trustworthy - hence a repost. Also, several posters pointed out the need for a more detailed ias analysis, so the numbers are now given for 0 ias up to 145 in increments of 5. Note that I'm purely concerned with physical damage output in this comparison.

    Here's how each bow does for a character level (clevel) 85 Strafeazon with 10% ias (I imagine that Goldwrap will be your only ias source aside from inherently in the bow - if you're using LoH or Stealskull, check out the exact numbers in the table). The percentage in front of the bow's name is its damage as a percentage of the best bow in the comparison:
    1. 100% Breath of the Dying Crusader Bow
    2. 81% Windforce shael (79% if clean)
    3. 75% Upgraded Buriza shael (67% if clean)
    4. 73% Eagle shael (57% if clean)
    5. 71% Buriza shael (63% if clean)
    6. 64% Upgraded Goldstrike Arch (shael or clean)
    7. 61% Upgraded Lycander's Aim shael (59% if clean)
    8. 53% Goldstrike Arch (shael or clean)
    9. 52% Widowmaker shael
    10. 50% Lycander's Aim shael (49% if clean)
    11. 49% Witchwild String 2*shael
    12. 48% Upgraded Riphook shael
    13. 43% Blood Raven's Charge shael
    14. 40% M'avina's Caster shael (54% if the full gear is incalculated - but note the unfairness in that comparison)

    This order is relatively stable at higher levels, too, with these exceptions:
    • Buriza overtakes Eagle at clevel 96
    • Widowmaker is overtaken by Lycander's Aim at clevel 89, by WWS at clevel 90 and by upgraded Riphook at clevel 92
    • upgraded WWS overtakes Lycander's Aim at clevel ** and (unupgraded) GSA at clevel 99
    Windforce and Buriza (upgraded and normal) will steadily gain on BotD, until at clevel 99 they are at 95%, 86% and 81% respectively. The list is also very stable for increased ias from gear (at least up to 30%, where I've stopped comparing, as a pitrunner is unlikely to have more than 30% ias from gear).

    Assumptions and limitations
    • No AR, dex or str bonus from gear is included as the best mf gear doesn't have much of these - Nagel rings have a little AR, shako a little of all stats and War travs +10 str. I tried to rerun the numbers with these added, and they didn't change the results significantly.
    • Vitality is supposed to be at 100 (a comfortable place, imo)
    • The Strafeazon's strength is assumed to be exactly the strength required for the bow
    • Every other statpoint is supposed to go into dex, including the Lam Essen's quest points
    • The creature I took as representative of pitruns is the Bone Warrior (monster level 85, defense rating 1616).
    • All bows have been assumed to have perfect stats, except the "real" Goldstrike Arch, which is assumed to be a little better than average (235 ed/150% extra damage to demons/undead)
    • Extra damage to undead/demons has been counted at half value, as it's about half and half in the pits
    • Next-delay has not been considered, but is not a problem either (except for Riphook), as all bows Strafe in the range 3-4 frames, which means that if one arrow hits, the next will auto-miss. So all bows (except Riphook) are hit equally by next-delay.
    • Strafe and Penetrate have been assumed to have skill level 23 (maxed plus shako and Skullder's)
    • To give WWS a bonus for the 2% chance of amp, I've multiplied its damage with 1.18. This signifies that each time amp goes off, you'll on average finish that monstergroup in one Strafe. In bigger games, it may take several Strafes, which would mean a higher ranking for the WWS.
    • To be able to take the DS on the WWS into consideration, I've assumed a level 10 CS for all other bows, and level 4 for WWS (one base skillpoint +3 skills)
    • Some bows may have nice mods which don't figure in the computations - pierce, knockback, etc. These are mentioned in the first column in the tables.
    • I've included an assessment of the Full M'avina set, which is a little unfair, since if I added comparable killing gear to the other bows they would do better - but even so, it doesn't do very good, so M'avina is probably not the best choice for a Strafeazon


    Used formulae:

    • AR = (dex * 5 - 35 + 5) * (1 + Penetrate bonus)
    • damage = (base damage * (1 + enhanced damage) + (possible max dam / 2)) * (dex / 100 + Strafe enhanced damage bonus + 1 + extra damage to demons&undead / 2) * 0.75
    • chance to hit = min (100 * AR / (AR + DR) * 2 * clvl/(clvl + monster lvl), 95)




    To read the tables:
    • Read commas as points in the tables
    • ignored features=nice mods for the Strafeazon on the bow that isn't already reflected in the analysis
    • bs=bull s.. no, I mean base speed
    • bd=dase damage
    • sreq=strength requirement
    • cth=chance to hit
    • as=attack speed
    • ss=Strafe speed
    • In the row beneath as and ss there will be numbers - the first will be two zeros. These refer to the extra ias from gear, and the two columns below the numbers and the next four columns refer to that ias setup. So each ias setup has 6 columns of numbers.
    • dps=damage per second
    • rdps=real dps, or dps*cth/100
    • %=the bow's damage output as a percentage of the best bow's damage output
    • rank=the bow's rank as compared to the other bows in the analysis
    • the first table is for clvl 85, the next for clvl 90 and the last for clvl 95 - most pitrunners will probably be around these levels
    • some random spaces have been inserted in some of the columns - they're not in my text, so I don't know how to get rid of them - however, if you just squeeze all numbers in one column together, they should form the right number.

    Finally, for the numbers:
    Code:
    clevel 85
                               ignored features         bs	bd	sreq	dex	ias	ed	dam	AR	cth	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank
    extra ias									                		        0	0					5	5					10	10					15	15					20	20					25	25					30	30					35	35					40	40					45	45					50	50					55	55					60	60					65	65					70	70					75	75					80	80					85	85					90	90					95	95					100	100					105	105					110	110					115	115					120	120					125	125					130	130					135	135					140	140					145	145				
    wf                         Knockback, ml            10	39	134	271	20	250	1531	4703	74	13	3	9568	7080	77	3	12	3	9814	7262	79	3	12	3	9814	7262	79	3	11	3	10072	7453	81	2	11	3	10072	7453	81	3	11	3	10072	7453	81	3	11	3	10072	7453	79	3	11	3	10072	7453	79	3	10	3	10344	7654	81	2	10	3	10344	7654	81	2	10	3	10344	7654	81	4	10	3	10344	7654	81	4	10	3	10344	7654	61	4	10	3	10344	7654	61	4	9	3	10631	7866	62	4	9	3	10631	7866	62	4	9	3	10631	7866	62	5	9	3	10631	7866	62	5	9	3	10631	7866	60	5	9	3	10631	7866	60	5	9	2	14175	10489	80	2	9	2	14175	10489	80	2	9	2	14175	10489	80	3	9	2	14175	10489	80	3	9	2	14175	10489	80	3	9	2	14175	10489	80	3	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2
    wf shael                   Knockback, ml            10	39	134	271	40	250	1531	4703	74	11	3	10072	7453	81	2	11	3	10072	7453	81	2	11	3	10072	7453	81	2	11	3	10072	7453	81	2	10	3	10344	7654	83	2	10	3	10344	7654	83	2	10	3	10344	7654	81	2	10	3	10344	7654	81	2	10	3	10344	7654	81	2	10	3	10344	7654	81	2	9	3	10631	7866	83	3	9	3	10631	7866	83	3	9	3	10631	7866	62	3	9	3	10631	7866	62	3	9	3	10631	7866	62	4	9	3	10631	7866	62	4	9	2	14175	10489	83	2	9	2	14175	10489	83	2	9	2	14175	10489	80	2	9	2	14175	10489	80	2	9	2	14175	10489	80	2	9	2	14175	10489	80	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2	8	2	14721	10893	83	2
    BotD crusader              Poison nova, pmh, ml     10	39	78	382	60	400	1590	6940	85	10	3	10743	9131	100	1	10	3	10743	9131	100	1	10	3	10743	9131	100	1	10	3	10743	9131	100	1	10	3	10743	9131	100	1	10	3	10743	9131	100	1	9	3	11041	9384	100	1	9	3	11041	9384	100	1	9	3	11041	9384	100	1	9	3	11041	9384	100	1	9	3	11041	9384	100	1	9	3	11041	9384	100	1	9	2	14722	12513	100	1	9	2	14722	12513	100	1	9	2	14722	12513	100	1	9	2	14722	12513	100	1	9	2	14722	12513	100	1	9	2	14722	12513	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1	8	2	15288	12994	100	1
    Goldstrike                 -                        10	30	95	305	50	250	884	7549	82	11	3	5815	4768	52	15	11	3	5815	4768	52	15	10	3	5972	4897	53	14	10	3	5972	4897	53	14	10	3	5972	4897	53	15	10	3	5972	4897	53	15	10	3	5972	4897	52	15	10	3	5972	4897	52	15	9	3	6138	5033	53	14	9	3	6138	5033	53	14	9	3	6138	5033	53	16	9	3	6138	5033	53	16	9	3	6138	5033	40	18	9	3	6138	5033	40	18	9	2	8185	6711	53	10	9	2	8185	6711	53	10	9	2	8185	6711	53	12	9	2	8185	6711	53	13	9	2	8185	6711	51	13	9	2	8185	6711	51	13	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12
    Goldstrike shael           -                        10	30	95	305	70	250	884	7549	82	10	3	5972	4897	53	14	10	3	5972	4897	53	14	10	3	5972	4897	53	14	10	3	5972	4897	53	14	9	3	6138	5033	55	14	9	3	6138	5033	55	14	9	3	6138	5033	53	14	9	3	6138	5033	53	14	9	3	6138	5033	53	14	9	3	6138	5033	53	14	9	2	8185	6711	71	9	9	2	8185	6711	71	9	9	2	8185	6711	53	9	9	2	8185	6711	53	9	9	2	8185	6711	53	10	9	2	8185	6711	53	10	8	2	8500	6970	55	11	8	2	8500	6970	55	11	8	2	8500	6970	53	11	8	2	8500	6970	53	11	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12	8	2	8500	6970	53	12
    Real Goldstrike            -                        10	30	95	305	50	235	787	7549	82	11	3	5177	4245	46	21	11	3	5177	4245	46	21	10	3	5317	4359	47	21	10	3	5317	4359	47	21	10	3	5317	4359	47	22	10	3	5317	4359	47	22	10	3	5317	4359	46	22	10	3	5317	4359	46	22	9	3	5465	4481	47	21	9	3	5465	4481	47	21	9	3	5465	4481	47	22	9	3	5465	4481	47	22	9	3	5465	4481	35	23	9	3	5465	4481	35	23	9	2	7287	5975	47	15	9	2	7287	5975	47	15	9	2	7287	5975	47	19	9	2	7287	5975	47	19	9	2	7287	5975	45	19	9	2	7287	5975	45	19	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20
    Real Goldstrike shael      -                        10	30	95	305	70	235	787	7549	82	10	3	5317	4359	47	20	10	3	5317	4359	47	20	10	3	5317	4359	47	21	10	3	5317	4359	47	21	9	3	5465	4481	49	20	9	3	5465	4481	49	21	9	3	5465	4481	47	21	9	3	5465	4481	47	21	9	3	5465	4481	47	21	9	3	5465	4481	47	21	9	2	7287	5975	63	13	9	2	7287	5975	63	13	9	2	7287	5975	47	14	9	2	7287	5975	47	14	9	2	7287	5975	47	15	9	2	7287	5975	47	15	8	2	7567	6204	49	18	8	2	7567	6204	49	18	8	2	7567	6204	47	18	8	2	7567	6204	47	18	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20	8	2	7567	6204	47	20
    Upgr Goldstrike            -                        10	39	134	266	50	250	1087	6565	80	11	3	7151	5720	62	10	11	3	7151	5720	62	10	10	3	7344	5875	64	8	10	3	7344	5875	64	10	10	3	7344	5875	64	11	10	3	7344	5875	64	11	10	3	7344	5875	62	11	10	3	7344	5875	62	11	9	3	7548	6038	64	10	9	3	7548	6038	64	10	9	3	7548	6038	64	12	9	3	7548	6038	64	12	9	3	7548	6038	48	13	9	3	7548	6038	48	13	9	2	10064	8051	64	2	9	2	10064	8051	64	2	9	2	10064	8051	64	4	9	2	10064	8051	64	4	9	2	10064	8051	61	4	9	2	10064	8051	61	4	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6
    Upgr Goldstrike shael      -                        10	39	134	266	70	250	1087	6565	80	10	3	7344	5875	64	8	10	3	7344	5875	64	8	10	3	7344	5875	64	8	10	3	7344	5875	64	10	9	3	7548	6038	66	10	9	3	7548	6038	66	10	9	3	7548	6038	64	10	9	3	7548	6038	64	10	9	3	7548	6038	64	10	9	3	7548	6038	64	10	9	2	10064	8051	85	2	9	2	10064	8051	85	2	9	2	10064	8051	64	2	9	2	10064	8051	64	2	9	2	10064	8051	64	2	9	2	10064	8051	64	2	8	2	10451	8360	66	3	8	2	10451	8360	66	3	8	2	10451	8360	64	3	8	2	10451	8360	64	3	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	5	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6	8	2	10451	8360	64	6
    Buri                       Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	44	110	325	80	200	1505	5662	77	14	4	7525	5794	63	9	14	4	7525	5794	63	9	14	4	7525	5794	63	10	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	9	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	9	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	11	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	11	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	10	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	10	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	12	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	12	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	15	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	15	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	16	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	17	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	17	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	17	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	18	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15
    Buri shael                 Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	44	110	325	100	200	1505	5662	77	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	6	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	6	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	6	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	71	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	8	13	3,5	8455	6510	69	8	12	3,5	8649	6659	70	8	12	3,5	8649	6659	70	8	12	3,5	8649	6659	70	10	12	3,5	8649	6659	70	10	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	10	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	10	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	12	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	12	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	53	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	14	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	15	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	15	12	3,5	8649	6659	51	16	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15	11	3,5	8852	6816	52	15
    Upgr Buri                  Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	61,5	163	272	80	200	1656	4721	74	14	4	8280	6127	67	7	14	4	8280	6127	67	7	14	4	8280	6127	67	7	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	5	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	7	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	7	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	8	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	8	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	6	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	6	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	8	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	8	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	10	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	10	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	10	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	11	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	11	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	11	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	11	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10
    Upgr Buri shael            Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	61,5	163	272	100	200	1656	4721	74	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	75	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	4	13	3,5	9303	6884	73	5	12	3,5	9517	7042	75	4	12	3,5	9517	7042	75	4	12	3,5	9517	7042	75	5	12	3,5	9517	7042	75	5	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	6	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	6	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	8	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	8	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	56	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	9	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	10	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	10	12	3,5	9517	7042	54	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10	11	3,5	9741	7208	55	10
    Eagle                      -                        10	39	97	328	0	200	1107	7526	95	15	4	5426	5154	56	13	14	4	5535	5258	57	13	14	4	5535	5258	57	13	13	3	6918	6572	71	7	13	3	6918	6572	71	7	12	3	7096	6741	73	7	12	3	7096	6741	71	7	11	3	7282	6917	73	4	11	3	7282	6917	73	6	11	3	7282	6917	73	6	11	3	7282	6917	73	7	11	3	7282	6917	73	7	10	3	7479	7105	56	5	10	3	7479	7105	56	5	10	3	7479	7105	56	7	10	3	7479	7105	56	7	10	3	7479	7105	56	8	10	3	7479	7105	56	8	9	3	7687	7302	56	7	9	3	7687	7302	56	7	9	3	7687	7302	56	9	9	3	7687	7302	56	9	9	3	7687	7302	56	9	9	3	7687	7302	56	9	9	2	10250	9737	74	4	9	2	10250	9737	74	4	9	2	10250	9737	74	5	9	2	10250	9737	74	5	9	2	10250	9737	74	5	9	2	10250	9737	74	5
    Eagle shael                -                        10	39	97	328	20	200	1097	7526	95	13	3	6856	6513	71	5	12	3	7032	6680	73	5	12	3	7032	6680	73	5	11	3	7217	6856	75	6	11	3	7217	6856	75	6	11	3	7217	6856	75	6	11	3	7217	6856	73	6	11	3	7217	6856	73	7	10	3	7412	7041	75	5	10	3	7412	7041	75	5	10	3	7412	7041	75	6	10	3	7412	7041	75	6	10	3	7412	7041	56	8	10	3	7412	7041	56	8	9	3	7618	7237	57	6	9	3	7618	7237	57	6	9	3	7618	7237	57	7	9	3	7618	7237	57	7	9	3	7618	7237	55	8	9	3	7618	7237	55	8	9	2	10157	9649	74	4	9	2	10157	9649	74	4	9	2	10157	9649	74	4	9	2	10157	9649	74	4	9	2	10157	9649	74	5	9	2	10157	9649	74	5	8	2	10548	10020	77	4	8	2	10548	10020	77	4	8	2	10548	10020	77	4	8	2	10548	10020	77	4
    Upgr Riphook shael         Slow, ll, open wounds    -10	31	76	324	50	220	625	5644	77	9	3	4340	3341	36	24	9	3	4340	3341	36	24	9	2	5787	4455	48	20	9	2	5787	4455	48	20	9	2	5787	4455	48	21	8	2	6009	4626	50	19	8	2	6009	4626	49	19	8	2	6009	4626	49	19	8	2	6009	4626	49	20	8	2	6009	4626	49	20	8	2	6009	4626	49	21	8	2	6009	4626	49	21	8	2	6009	4626	36	22	8	2	6009	4626	36	22	8	2	6009	4626	36	23	8	2	6009	4626	36	23	8	2	6009	4626	36	24	8	2	6009	4626	36	24	8	2	6009	4626	35	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24	7	2	6250	4812	37	24
    Upgr WWS shaelshael        40 res, lvl 20 MA        0	36,5	89	311	40	170	874	5413	77	10	3	5905	4546	49	18	10	3	5905	4546	49	18	10	3	5905	4546	49	18	10	3	5905	4546	49	19	10	3	5905	4546	49	19	9	3	6069	4673	51	18	9	3	6069	4673	49	18	9	3	6069	4673	49	18	9	3	6069	4673	49	19	9	3	6069	4673	49	19	9	3	6069	4673	49	20	9	3	6069	4673	49	20	9	2	8092	6230	49	12	8	2	8403	6470	51	12	8	2	8403	6470	51	14	8	2	8403	6470	51	14	8	2	8403	6470	51	16	8	2	8403	6470	51	16	8	2	8403	6470	49	16	8	2	8403	6470	49	16	8	2	8403	6470	49	17	8	2	8403	6470	49	17	8	2	8403	6470	49	18	8	2	8403	6470	49	18	8	2	8403	6470	49	18	8	2	8403	6470	49	18	8	2	8403	6470	49	19	8	2	8403	6470	49	19	8	2	8403	6470	49	19	8	2	8403	6470	49	19
    Lycander's                 ml, def                  10	30	73	347	20	200	884	6393	79	13	3	5525	4364	47	19	12	3	5666	4476	49	19	12	3	5666	4476	49	19	11	3	5815	4593	50	17	11	3	5815	4593	50	18	11	3	5815	4593	50	20	11	3	5815	4593	48	20	11	3	5815	4593	48	20	10	3	5972	4717	50	17	10	3	5972	4717	50	17	10	3	5972	4717	50	19	10	3	5972	4717	50	19	10	3	5972	4717	37	21	10	3	5972	4717	37	21	9	3	6138	4849	38	21	9	3	6138	4849	38	21	9	3	6138	4849	38	23	9	3	6138	4849	38	23	9	3	6138	4849	37	23	9	3	6138	4849	37	23	9	2	8185	6466	49	18	9	2	8185	6466	49	18	9	2	8185	6466	49	19	9	2	8185	6466	49	19	9	2	8185	6466	49	19	9	2	8185	6466	49	19	8	2	8500	6715	51	16	8	2	8500	6715	51	17	8	2	8500	6715	51	17	8	2	8500	6715	51	17
    Lycander's shael           ml, def                  10	30	73	347	40	200	884	6393	79	11	3	5815	4593	50	17	11	3	5815	4593	50	17	11	3	5815	4593	50	17	11	3	5815	4593	50	17	10	3	5972	4717	51	17	10	3	5972	4717	51	17	10	3	5972	4717	50	17	10	3	5972	4717	50	17	10	3	5972	4717	50	17	10	3	5972	4717	50	17	9	3	6138	4849	51	18	9	3	6138	4849	51	18	9	3	6138	4849	38	20	9	3	6138	4849	38	20	9	3	6138	4849	38	21	9	3	6138	4849	38	21	9	2	8185	6466	51	17	9	2	8185	6466	51	17	9	2	8185	6466	49	17	9	2	8185	6466	49	17	9	2	8185	6466	49	18	9	2	8185	6466	49	18	8	2	8500	6715	51	15	8	2	8500	6715	51	16	8	2	8500	6715	51	16	8	2	8500	6715	51	16	8	2	8500	6715	51	16	8	2	8500	6715	51	17	8	2	8500	6715	51	17	8	2	8500	6715	51	17
    Upgr Lycander's            ml, def                  10	43	108	312	20	200	1086	5737	78	13	3	6787	5293	57	12	12	3	6961	5429	59	12	12	3	6961	5429	59	12	11	3	7144	5572	61	12	11	3	7144	5572	61	13	11	3	7144	5572	61	13	11	3	7144	5572	59	13	11	3	7144	5572	59	13	10	3	7337	5722	60	12	10	3	7337	5722	60	12	10	3	7337	5722	60	15	10	3	7337	5722	60	15	10	3	7337	5722	45	16	10	3	7337	5722	45	16	9	3	7541	5881	46	17	9	3	7541	5881	46	17	9	3	7541	5881	46	20	9	3	7541	5881	46	20	9	3	7541	5881	45	20	9	3	7541	5881	45	20	9	2	10055	7842	60	7	9	2	10055	7842	60	7	9	2	10055	7842	60	8	9	2	10055	7842	60	8	9	2	10055	7842	60	9	9	2	10055	7842	60	9	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8
    Upgr Lycander's shael      ml, def                  10	43	108	312	40	200	1086	5737	78	11	3	7144	5572	61	11	11	3	7144	5572	61	11	11	3	7144	5572	61	11	11	3	7144	5572	61	12	10	3	7337	5722	62	12	10	3	7337	5722	62	12	10	3	7337	5722	60	12	10	3	7337	5722	60	12	10	3	7337	5722	60	12	10	3	7337	5722	60	12	9	3	7541	5881	62	14	9	3	7541	5881	62	14	9	3	7541	5881	46	15	9	3	7541	5881	46	15	9	3	7541	5881	46	17	9	3	7541	5881	46	17	9	2	10055	7842	62	6	9	2	10055	7842	62	6	9	2	10055	7842	60	6	9	2	10055	7842	60	6	9	2	10055	7842	60	7	9	2	10055	7842	60	7	8	2	10442	8144	62	7	8	2	10442	8144	62	7	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8	8	2	10442	8144	62	8
    Widowmaker shael           lvl 11 MA                0	36,5	72	328	20	200	760	5715	95	11	3	5000	4750	52	16	11	3	5000	4750	52	16	11	3	5000	4750	52	16	11	3	5000	4750	52	16	10	3	5135	4878	53	16	10	3	5135	4878	53	16	10	3	5135	4878	51	16	10	3	5135	4878	51	16	10	3	5135	4878	51	16	9	3	5277	5013	53	16	9	3	5277	5013	53	17	9	3	5277	5013	53	17	9	3	5277	5013	40	19	9	3	5277	5013	40	19	9	3	5277	5013	40	20	9	3	5277	5013	40	20	9	2	7037	6685	53	13	8	2	7307	6941	55	12	8	2	7307	6941	53	12	8	2	7307	6941	53	12	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14	8	2	7307	6941	53	14
    Blood Raven's Charge shael lvl 13 explosive arrows  -10	33,5	87	313	20	230	682	10054	86	11	3	4486	3857	42	22	10	3	4608	3962	43	22	10	3	4608	3962	43	23	10	3	4608	3962	43	23	10	3	4608	3962	43	23	9	3	4736	4072	44	23	9	3	4736	4072	43	23	9	3	4736	4072	43	23	9	3	4736	4072	43	23	9	3	4736	4072	43	23	9	3	4736	4072	43	23	8	3	4871	4189	44	23	8	3	4871	4189	33	24	8	3	4871	4189	33	24	8	3	4871	4189	33	24	8	3	4871	4189	33	24	8	2	6557	5639	45	21	8	2	6557	5639	45	21	8	2	6557	5639	43	21	8	2	6557	5639	43	21	8	2	6557	5639	43	22	8	2	6557	5639	43	22	8	2	6557	5639	43	22	8	2	6557	5639	43	22	8	2	6557	5639	43	22	7	2	6820	5865	45	22	7	2	6820	5865	45	22	7	2	6820	5865	45	22	7	2	6820	5865	45	22	7	2	6820	5865	45	22
    M'avina's Caster shael     lvl 1 MA                 10	43	108	292	60	188	734	5076	75	10	3	4959	3719	40	23	10	3	4959	3719	40	23	10	3	4959	3719	40	24	10	3	4959	3719	40	24	10	3	4959	3719	40	24	10	3	4959	3719	40	24	9	3	5097	3822	40	24	9	3	5097	3822	40	24	9	3	5097	3822	40	24	9	3	5097	3822	40	24	9	3	5097	3822	40	24	9	3	5097	3822	40	24	9	2	6796	5097	40	17	9	2	6796	5097	40	17	9	2	6796	5097	40	19	9	2	6796	5097	40	19	9	2	6796	5097	40	22	9	2	6796	5097	40	22	8	2	7057	5292	40	22	8	2	7057	5292	40	22	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23	8	2	7057	5292	40	23
    M'avina full shael         lots                     10	43	108	367	90	188	865	8096	83	9	3	6006	4984	54	14	9	3	6006	4984	54	14	9	3	6006	4984	54	14	9	3	6006	4984	54	14	9	3	6006	4984	54	15	9	3	6006	4984	54	15	9	2	8009	6647	70	8	9	2	8009	6647	70	8	9	2	8009	6647	70	9	9	2	8009	6647	70	9	9	2	8009	6647	70	11	9	2	8009	6647	70	11	8	2	8317	6903	55	9	8	2	8317	6903	55	9	8	2	8317	6903	55	10	8	2	8317	6903	55	10	8	2	8317	6903	55	12	8	2	8317	6903	55	13	8	2	8317	6903	53	13	8	2	8317	6903	53	13	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15	8	2	8317	6903	53	15
    
    clevel 90
                               ignored features         bs	bd	sreq	dex	ias	ed	dam	AR	cth	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank	as	ss	dps	rdps	%	rank
    extra ias											                        0	0					5	5					10	10					15	15					20	20					25	25					30	30					35	35					40	40					45	45					50	50					55	55					60	60					65	65					70	70					75	75					80	80					85	85					90	90					95	95					100	100					105	105					110	110					115	115					120	120					125	125					130	130					135	135					140	140					145	145				
    wf                         Knockback, ml            10	39	134	296	20	250	1656	5147	78	13	3	10350	8073	82	3	12	3	10615	8279	84	3	12	3	10615	8279	84	3	11	3	10894	8497	86	2	11	3	10894	8497	86	3	11	3	10894	8497	86	3	11	3	10894	8497	84	3	11	3	10894	8497	84	3	10	3	11189	8727	86	2	10	3	11189	8727	86	2	10	3	11189	8727	86	3	10	3	11189	8727	86	3	10	3	11189	8727	65	3	10	3	11189	8727	65	3	9	3	11500	8970	66	2	9	3	11500	8970	66	2	9	3	11500	8970	66	4	9	3	11500	8970	66	4	9	3	11500	8970	64	4	9	3	11500	8970	64	4	9	2	15333	11959	85	2	9	2	15333	11959	85	2	9	2	15333	11959	85	3	9	2	15333	11959	85	3	9	2	15333	11959	85	3	9	2	15333	11959	85	3	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2
    wf shael                   Knockback, ml            10	39	134	296	40	250	1656	5147	78	11	3	10894	8497	86	2	11	3	10894	8497	86	2	11	3	10894	8497	86	2	11	3	10894	8497	86	2	10	3	11189	8727	89	2	10	3	11189	8727	89	2	10	3	11189	8727	86	2	10	3	11189	8727	86	2	10	3	11189	8727	86	2	10	3	11189	8727	86	2	9	3	11500	8970	89	2	9	3	11500	8970	89	2	9	3	11500	8970	66	2	9	3	11500	8970	66	2	9	3	11500	8970	66	2	9	3	11500	8970	66	2	9	2	15333	11959	89	2	9	2	15333	11959	89	2	9	2	15333	11959	85	2	9	2	15333	11959	85	2	9	2	15333	11959	85	2	9	2	15333	11959	85	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2	8	2	15923	12419	89	2
    BotD crusader              Poison nova, pmh, ml     10	39	78	407	60	400	1647	7384	**	10	3	11128	9792	100	1	10	3	11128	9792	100	1	10	3	11128	9792	100	1	10	3	11128	9792	100	1	10	3	11128	9792	100	1	10	3	11128	9792	100	1	9	3	11437	10064	100	1	9	3	11437	10064	100	1	9	3	11437	10064	100	1	9	3	11437	10064	100	1	9	3	11437	10064	100	1	9	3	11437	10064	100	1	9	2	15250	13420	100	1	9	2	15250	13420	100	1	9	2	15250	13420	100	1	9	2	15250	13420	100	1	9	2	15250	13420	100	1	9	2	15250	13420	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1	8	2	15836	13935	100	1
    Goldstrike                 -                        10	30	95	330	50	250	915	8181	85	11	3	6019	5116	52	15	11	3	6019	5116	52	15	10	3	6182	5254	53	14	10	3	6182	5254	53	14	10	3	6182	5254	53	15	10	3	6182	5254	53	15	10	3	6182	5254	52	15	10	3	6182	5254	52	15	9	3	6354	5400	53	14	9	3	6354	5400	53	14	9	3	6354	5400	53	16	9	3	6354	5400	53	16	9	3	6354	5400	40	18	9	3	6354	5400	40	18	9	2	8472	7201	53	12	9	2	8472	7201	53	12	9	2	8472	7201	53	14	9	2	8472	7201	53	15	9	2	8472	7201	51	15	9	2	8472	7201	51	15	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14
    Goldstrike shael           -                        10	30	95	330	70	250	915	8181	85	10	3	6182	5254	53	14	10	3	6182	5254	53	14	10	3	6182	5254	53	14	10	3	6182	5254	53	14	9	3	6354	5400	55	14	9	3	6354	5400	55	14	9	3	6354	5400	53	14	9	3	6354	5400	53	14	9	3	6354	5400	53	14	9	3	6354	5400	53	14	9	2	8472	7201	71	11	9	2	8472	7201	71	11	9	2	8472	7201	53	11	9	2	8472	7201	53	11	9	2	8472	7201	53	12	9	2	8472	7201	53	12	8	2	8798	7478	55	13	8	2	8798	7478	55	13	8	2	8798	7478	53	13	8	2	8798	7478	53	13	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14	8	2	8798	7478	53	14
    Real Goldstrike            -                        10	30	95	330	50	235	817	8181	85	11	3	5375	4568	46	21	11	3	5375	4568	46	21	10	3	5520	4692	47	21	10	3	5520	4692	47	21	10	3	5520	4692	47	22	10	3	5520	4692	47	22	10	3	5520	4692	46	22	10	3	5520	4692	46	22	9	3	5673	4822	47	21	9	3	5673	4822	47	21	9	3	5673	4822	47	22	9	3	5673	4822	47	22	9	3	5673	4822	35	23	9	3	5673	4822	35	23	9	2	7564	6429	47	15	9	2	7564	6429	47	15	9	2	7564	6429	47	19	9	2	7564	6429	47	19	9	2	7564	6429	46	19	9	2	7564	6429	46	19	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20
    Real Goldstrike shael      -                        10	30	95	330	70	235	817	8181	85	10	3	5520	4692	47	20	10	3	5520	4692	47	20	10	3	5520	4692	47	21	10	3	5520	4692	47	21	9	3	5673	4822	49	21	9	3	5673	4822	49	21	9	3	5673	4822	47	21	9	3	5673	4822	47	21	9	3	5673	4822	47	21	9	3	5673	4822	47	21	9	2	7564	6429	63	13	9	2	7564	6429	63	13	9	2	7564	6429	47	14	9	2	7564	6429	47	14	9	2	7564	6429	47	15	9	2	7564	6429	47	15	8	2	7855	6676	49	18	8	2	7855	6676	49	18	8	2	7855	6676	47	18	8	2	7855	6676	47	18	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20	8	2	7855	6676	47	20
    Upgr Goldstrike            -                        10	39	134	291	50	250	1127	7196	83	11	3	7414	6153	62	10	11	3	7414	6153	62	10	10	3	7614	6319	64	9	10	3	7614	6319	64	10	10	3	7614	6319	64	11	10	3	7614	6319	64	11	10	3	7614	6319	62	11	10	3	7614	6319	62	11	9	3	7826	6495	64	10	9	3	7826	6495	64	10	9	3	7826	6495	64	12	9	3	7826	6495	64	12	9	3	7826	6495	48	13	9	3	7826	6495	48	13	9	2	10435	8661	64	4	9	2	10435	8661	64	4	9	2	10435	8661	64	5	9	2	10435	8661	64	5	9	2	10435	8661	62	5	9	2	10435	8661	62	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6
    Upgr Goldstrike shael      -                        10	39	134	291	70	250	1127	7196	83	10	3	7614	6319	64	9	10	3	7614	6319	64	9	10	3	7614	6319	64	9	10	3	7614	6319	64	10	9	3	7826	6495	66	10	9	3	7826	6495	66	10	9	3	7826	6495	64	10	9	3	7826	6495	64	10	9	3	7826	6495	64	10	9	3	7826	6495	64	10	9	2	10435	8661	86	4	9	2	10435	8661	86	4	9	2	10435	8661	64	4	9	2	10435	8661	64	4	9	2	10435	8661	64	4	9	2	10435	8661	64	4	8	2	10836	8993	67	3	8	2	10836	8993	67	3	8	2	10836	8993	64	3	8	2	10836	8993	64	3	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	5	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6	8	2	10836	8993	64	6
    Buri                       Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	44	110	350	80	200	1616	6106	81	14	4	8080	6544	66	8	14	4	8080	6544	66	8	14	4	8080	6544	66	8	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	7	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	9	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	9	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	10	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	10	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	8	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	8	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	10	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	10	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	12	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	12	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	12	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	13	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	13	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	13	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	13	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12
    Buri shael                 Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	44	110	350	100	200	1616	6106	81	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	5	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	5	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	5	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	75	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	6	13	3,5	9078	7353	73	7	12	3,5	9287	7522	74	6	12	3,5	9287	7522	74	6	12	3,5	9287	7522	74	7	12	3,5	9287	7522	74	7	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	8	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	8	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	10	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	10	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	56	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	11	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	12	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	12	12	3,5	9287	7522	53	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12	11	3,5	9505	7699	55	12
    Upgr Buri                  Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	61,5	163	297	80	200	1779	5165	78	14	4	8895	6938	70	7	14	4	8895	6938	70	7	14	4	8895	6938	70	7	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	5	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	5	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	6	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	6	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	5	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	5	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	6	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	6	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	9	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	9	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	9	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	10	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	11	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	11	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	11	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10
    Upgr Buri shael            Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	61,5	163	297	100	200	1779	5165	78	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	79	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	4	13	3,5	9994	7795	77	4	12	3,5	10224	7974	79	4	12	3,5	10224	7974	79	4	12	3,5	10224	7974	79	5	12	3,5	10224	7974	79	5	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	5	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	5	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	6	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	6	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	59	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	7	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	9	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	9	12	3,5	10224	7974	57	9	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	9	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10	11	3,5	10464	8161	58	10
    Eagle                      -                        10	39	97	353	0	200	1179	8076	95	15	4	5779	5490	56	13	14	4	5895	5600	57	13	14	4	5895	5600	57	13	13	3	7368	6999	71	9	13	3	7368	6999	71	9	12	3	7557	7179	73	9	12	3	7557	7179	71	9	11	3	7756	7368	73	6	11	3	7756	7368	73	8	11	3	7756	7368	73	8	11	3	7756	7368	73	9	11	3	7756	7368	73	9	10	3	7966	7567	56	7	10	3	7966	7567	56	7	10	3	7966	7567	56	9	10	3	7966	7567	56	9	10	3	7966	7567	56	10	10	3	7966	7567	56	10	9	3	8187	7777	55	9	9	3	8187	7777	55	9	9	3	8187	7777	55	11	9	3	8187	7777	55	11	9	3	8187	7777	55	11	9	3	8187	7777	55	11	9	2	10916	10370	74	4	9	2	10916	10370	74	4	9	2	10916	10370	74	5	9	2	10916	10370	74	5	9	2	10916	10370	74	5	9	2	10916	10370	74	5
    Eagle shael                -                        10	39	97	353	20	200	1169	8076	95	13	3	7306	6940	70	6	12	3	7493	7118	72	6	12	3	7493	7118	72	6	11	3	7690	7305	74	8	11	3	7690	7305	74	8	11	3	7690	7305	74	8	11	3	7690	7305	72	8	11	3	7690	7305	72	9	10	3	7898	7503	74	7	10	3	7898	7503	74	7	10	3	7898	7503	74	8	10	3	7898	7503	74	8	10	3	7898	7503	55	10	10	3	7898	7503	55	10	9	3	8118	7712	57	8	9	3	8118	7712	57	8	9	3	8118	7712	57	9	9	3	8118	7712	57	9	9	3	8118	7712	55	10	9	3	8118	7712	55	10	9	2	10824	10282	73	4	9	2	10824	10282	73	4	9	2	10824	10282	73	4	9	2	10824	10282	73	4	9	2	10824	10282	73	5	9	2	10824	10282	73	5	8	2	11240	10678	76	4	8	2	11240	10678	76	4	8	2	11240	10678	76	4	8	2	11240	10678	76	4
    Upgr Riphook shael         Slow, ll, open wounds    -10	31	76	349	50	220	654	6088	81	9	3	4541	3678	37	24	9	3	4541	3678	37	24	9	2	6055	4904	50	20	9	2	6055	4904	50	20	9	2	6055	4904	50	20	8	2	6288	5093	52	19	8	2	6288	5093	50	19	8	2	6288	5093	50	19	8	2	6288	5093	50	20	8	2	6288	5093	50	20	8	2	6288	5093	50	21	8	2	6288	5093	50	21	8	2	6288	5093	37	22	8	2	6288	5093	37	22	8	2	6288	5093	37	23	8	2	6288	5093	37	23	8	2	6288	5093	37	24	8	2	6288	5093	37	24	8	2	6288	5093	36	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24	7	2	6540	5297	38	24
    Upgr WWS shaelshael        40 res, lvl 20 MA        0	36,5	89	336	40	170	931	5857	80	10	3	6290	5032	51	17	10	3	6290	5032	51	17	10	3	6290	5032	51	17	10	3	6290	5032	51	18	10	3	6290	5032	51	19	9	3	6465	5172	52	16	9	3	6465	5172	51	16	9	3	6465	5172	51	16	9	3	6465	5172	51	16	9	3	6465	5172	51	17	9	3	6465	5172	51	19	9	3	6465	5172	51	19	9	2	8620	6896	51	12	8	2	8951	7160	53	12	8	2	8951	7160	53	14	8	2	8951	7160	53	14	8	2	8951	7160	53	15	8	2	8951	7160	53	16	8	2	8951	7160	51	16	8	2	8951	7160	51	16	8	2	8951	7160	51	17	8	2	8951	7160	51	17	8	2	8951	7160	51	18	8	2	8951	7160	51	18	8	2	8951	7160	51	18	8	2	8951	7160	51	18	8	2	8951	7160	51	19	8	2	8951	7160	51	19	8	2	8951	7160	51	19	8	2	8951	7160	51	19
    Lycander's                 ml, def                  10	30	73	372	20	200	922	6862	83	13	3	5762	4782	48	19	12	3	5910	4905	50	19	12	3	5910	4905	50	19	11	3	6065	5033	51	16	11	3	6065	5033	51	18	11	3	6065	5033	51	20	11	3	6065	5033	50	20	11	3	6065	5033	50	20	10	3	6229	5170	51	17	10	3	6229	5170	51	18	10	3	6229	5170	51	20	10	3	6229	5170	51	20	10	3	6229	5170	38	21	10	3	6229	5170	38	21	9	3	6402	5313	39	20	9	3	6402	5313	39	20	9	3	6402	5313	39	23	9	3	6402	5313	39	23	9	3	6402	5313	38	23	9	3	6402	5313	38	23	9	2	8537	7085	50	18	9	2	8537	7085	50	18	9	2	8537	7085	50	19	9	2	8537	7085	50	19	9	2	8537	7085	50	19	9	2	8537	7085	50	19	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16
    Lycander's shael           ml, def                  10	30	73	372	40	200	922	6862	83	11	3	6065	5033	51	16	11	3	6065	5033	51	16	11	3	6065	5033	51	16	11	3	6065	5033	51	16	10	3	6229	5170	52	16	10	3	6229	5170	52	17	10	3	6229	5170	51	17	10	3	6229	5170	51	17	10	3	6229	5170	51	17	10	3	6229	5170	51	18	9	3	6402	5313	52	17	9	3	6402	5313	52	17	9	3	6402	5313	39	19	9	3	6402	5313	39	19	9	3	6402	5313	39	20	9	3	6402	5313	39	20	9	2	8537	7085	52	16	9	2	8537	7085	52	17	9	2	8537	7085	50	17	9	2	8537	7085	50	17	9	2	8537	7085	50	18	9	2	8537	7085	50	18	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16	8	2	8865	7357	52	16
    Upgr Lycander's            ml, def                  10	43	108	337	20	200	1135	6206	81	13	3	7093	5745	58	12	12	3	7275	5892	60	12	12	3	7275	5892	60	12	11	3	7467	6048	61	12	11	3	7467	6048	61	13	11	3	7467	6048	61	13	11	3	7467	6048	60	13	11	3	7467	6048	60	13	10	3	7668	6211	61	12	10	3	7668	6211	61	12	10	3	7668	6211	61	15	10	3	7668	6211	61	15	10	3	7668	6211	46	16	10	3	7668	6211	46	16	9	3	7881	6383	47	17	9	3	7881	6383	47	17	9	3	7881	6383	47	20	9	3	7881	6383	47	20	9	3	7881	6383	45	20	9	3	7881	6383	45	20	9	2	10509	8512	61	7	9	2	10509	8512	61	7	9	2	10509	8512	61	8	9	2	10509	8512	61	8	9	2	10509	8512	61	9	9	2	10509	8512	61	9	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8
    Upgr Lycander's shael      ml, def                  10	43	108	337	40	200	1135	6206	81	11	3	7467	6048	61	11	11	3	7467	6048	61	11	11	3	7467	6048	61	11	11	3	7467	6048	61	12	10	3	7668	6211	63	12	10	3	7668	6211	63	12	10	3	7668	6211	61	12	10	3	7668	6211	61	12	10	3	7668	6211	61	12	10	3	7668	6211	61	12	9	3	7881	6383	63	14	9	3	7881	6383	63	14	9	3	7881	6383	47	15	9	3	7881	6383	47	15	9	3	7881	6383	47	17	9	3	7881	6383	47	17	9	2	10509	8512	63	6	9	2	10509	8512	63	6	9	2	10509	8512	61	6	9	2	10509	8512	61	6	9	2	10509	8512	61	7	9	2	10509	8512	61	7	8	2	10913	8839	63	7	8	2	10913	8839	63	7	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8	8	2	10913	8839	63	8
    Widowmaker shael           lvl 11 MA                0	36,5	72	353	20	200	795	6159	95	11	3	5230	4968	50	18	11	3	5230	4968	50	18	11	3	5230	4968	50	18	11	3	5230	4968	50	19	10	3	5371	5102	52	17	10	3	5371	5102	52	18	10	3	5371	5102	50	18	10	3	5371	5102	50	18	10	3	5371	5102	50	19	9	3	5520	5244	52	16	9	3	5520	5244	52	18	9	3	5520	5244	52	18	9	3	5520	5244	39	20	9	3	5520	5244	39	20	9	3	5520	5244	39	22	9	3	5520	5244	39	22	9	2	7361	6992	52	17	8	2	7644	7261	54	14	8	2	7644	7261	52	14	8	2	7644	7261	52	14	8	2	7644	7261	52	16	8	2	7644	7261	52	16	8	2	7644	7261	52	17	8	2	7644	7261	52	17	8	2	7644	7261	52	17	8	2	7644	7261	52	17	8	2	7644	7261	52	18	8	2	7644	7261	52	18	8	2	7644	7261	52	18	8	2	7644	7261	52	18
    Blood Raven's Charge shael lvl 13 explosive arrows  -10	33,5	87	338	20	230	715	10873	89	11	3	4703	4185	42	22	10	3	4831	4299	43	22	10	3	4831	4299	43	23	10	3	4831	4299	43	23	10	3	4831	4299	43	23	9	3	4965	4418	45	23	9	3	4965	4418	43	23	9	3	4965	4418	43	23	9	3	4965	4418	43	23	9	3	4965	4418	43	23	9	3	4965	4418	43	23	8	3	5107	4545	45	23	8	3	5107	4545	33	24	8	3	5107	4545	33	24	8	3	5107	4545	33	24	8	3	5107	4545	33	24	8	2	6875	6118	45	21	8	2	6875	6118	45	21	8	2	6875	6118	43	21	8	2	6875	6118	43	21	8	2	6875	6118	43	22	8	2	6875	6118	43	22	8	2	6875	6118	43	22	8	2	6875	6118	43	22	8	2	6875	6118	43	22	7	2	7150	6363	45	22	7	2	7150	6363	45	22	7	2	7150	6363	45	22	7	2	7150	6363	45	22	7	2	7150	6363	45	22
    M'avina's Caster shael     lvl 1 MA                 10	43	108	317	60	188	770	5520	79	10	3	5202	4109	41	23	10	3	5202	4109	41	23	10	3	5202	4109	41	24	10	3	5202	4109	41	24	10	3	5202	4109	41	24	10	3	5202	4109	41	24	9	3	5347	4224	41	24	9	3	5347	4224	41	24	9	3	5347	4224	41	24	9	3	5347	4224	41	24	9	3	5347	4224	41	24	9	3	5347	4224	41	24	9	2	7129	5631	41	17	9	2	7129	5631	41	17	9	2	7129	5631	41	19	9	2	7129	5631	41	19	9	2	7129	5631	41	22	9	2	7129	5631	41	22	8	2	7403	5848	41	22	8	2	7403	5848	41	22	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23	8	2	7403	5848	41	23
    M'avina full shael         lots                     10	43	108	392	90	188	901	8627	86	9	3	6256	5380	54	14	9	3	6256	5380	54	14	9	3	6256	5380	54	14	9	3	6256	5380	54	14	9	3	6256	5380	54	15	9	3	6256	5380	54	15	9	2	8342	7174	71	10	9	2	8342	7174	71	10	9	2	8342	7174	71	10	9	2	8342	7174	71	10	9	2	8342	7174	71	12	9	2	8342	7174	71	12	8	2	8663	7450	55	11	8	2	8663	7450	55	11	8	2	8663	7450	55	12	8	2	8663	7450	55	12	8	2	8663	7450	55	14	8	2	8663	7450	55	14	8	2	8663	7450	53	14	8	2	8663	7450	53	14	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16	8	2	8663	7450	53	16
    
     
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    wf                         Knockback, ml            10	39	134	321	20	250	1786	5591	81	13	3	11162	9041	86	3	12	3	11448	9272	**	3	12	3	11448	9272	**	3	11	3	11750	9517	90	2	11	3	11750	9517	90	3	11	3	11750	9517	90	3	11	3	11750	9517	**	3	11	3	11750	9517	**	3	10	3	12067	9774	90	2	10	3	12067	9774	90	2	10	3	12067	9774	90	3	10	3	12067	9774	90	3	10	3	12067	9774	68	3	10	3	12067	9774	68	3	9	3	12402	10045	69	2	9	3	12402	10045	69	2	9	3	12402	10045	69	3	9	3	12402	10045	69	3	9	3	12402	10045	67	3	9	3	12402	10045	67	3	9	2	16537	13394	89	2	9	2	16537	13394	89	2	9	2	16537	13394	89	3	9	2	16537	13394	89	3	9	2	16537	13394	89	3	9	2	16537	13394	89	3	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2
    wf shael                   Knockback, ml            10	39	134	321	40	250	1786	5591	81	11	3	11750	9517	90	2	11	3	11750	9517	90	2	11	3	11750	9517	90	2	11	3	11750	9517	90	2	10	3	12067	9774	93	2	10	3	12067	9774	93	2	10	3	12067	9774	90	2	10	3	12067	9774	90	2	10	3	12067	9774	90	2	10	3	12067	9774	90	2	9	3	12402	10045	93	2	9	3	12402	10045	93	2	9	3	12402	10045	69	2	9	3	12402	10045	69	2	9	3	12402	10045	69	2	9	3	12402	10045	69	2	9	2	16537	13394	93	2	9	2	16537	13394	93	2	9	2	16537	13394	89	2	9	2	16537	13394	89	2	9	2	16537	13394	89	2	9	2	16537	13394	89	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2	8	2	17173	13910	93	2
    BotD crusader              Poison nova, pmh, ml     10	39	78	432	60	400	1704	7827	91	10	3	11513	10476	100	1	10	3	11513	10476	100	1	10	3	11513	10476	100	1	10	3	11513	10476	100	1	10	3	11513	10476	100	1	10	3	11513	10476	100	1	9	3	11833	10768	100	1	9	3	11833	10768	100	1	9	3	11833	10768	100	1	9	3	11833	10768	100	1	9	3	11833	10768	100	1	9	3	11833	10768	100	1	9	2	15777	14357	100	1	9	2	15777	14357	100	1	9	2	15777	14357	100	1	9	2	15777	14357	100	1	9	2	15777	14357	100	1	9	2	15777	14357	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1	8	2	16384	14909	100	1
    Goldstrike                 -                        10	30	95	355	50	250	945	8812	89	11	3	6217	5533	52	16	11	3	6217	5533	52	16	10	3	6385	5682	54	14	10	3	6385	5682	54	14	10	3	6385	5682	54	15	10	3	6385	5682	54	16	10	3	6385	5682	52	16	10	3	6385	5682	52	16	9	3	6562	5840	54	14	9	3	6562	5840	54	14	9	3	6562	5840	54	16	9	3	6562	5840	54	16	9	3	6562	5840	40	18	9	3	6562	5840	40	18	9	2	8750	7787	54	13	9	2	8750	7787	54	13	9	2	8750	7787	54	15	9	2	8750	7787	54	15	9	2	8750	7787	52	15	9	2	8750	7787	52	15	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14
    Goldstrike shael           -                        10	30	95	355	70	250	945	8812	89	10	3	6385	5682	54	14	10	3	6385	5682	54	14	10	3	6385	5682	54	14	10	3	6385	5682	54	14	9	3	6562	5840	55	14	9	3	6562	5840	55	14	9	3	6562	5840	54	14	9	3	6562	5840	54	14	9	3	6562	5840	54	14	9	3	6562	5840	54	14	9	2	8750	7787	72	11	9	2	8750	7787	72	11	9	2	8750	7787	54	11	9	2	8750	7787	54	12	9	2	8750	7787	54	13	9	2	8750	7787	54	13	8	2	9086	8086	56	12	8	2	9086	8086	56	12	8	2	9086	8086	54	13	8	2	9086	8086	54	13	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14	8	2	9086	8086	54	14
    Real Goldstrike            -                        10	30	95	355	50	235	846	8812	89	11	3	5565	4952	47	21	11	3	5565	4952	47	21	10	3	5716	5087	48	21	10	3	5716	5087	48	21	10	3	5716	5087	48	22	10	3	5716	5087	48	22	10	3	5716	5087	47	22	10	3	5716	5087	47	22	9	3	5875	5228	48	21	9	3	5875	5228	48	21	9	3	5875	5228	48	22	9	3	5875	5228	48	22	9	3	5875	5228	36	23	9	3	5875	5228	36	23	9	2	7833	6971	48	15	9	2	7833	6971	48	15	9	2	7833	6971	48	19	9	2	7833	6971	48	19	9	2	7833	6971	46	19	9	2	7833	6971	46	19	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20
    Real Goldstrike shael      -                        10	30	95	355	70	235	846	8812	89	10	3	5716	5087	48	20	10	3	5716	5087	48	20	10	3	5716	5087	48	21	10	3	5716	5087	48	21	9	3	5875	5228	49	21	9	3	5875	5228	49	21	9	3	5875	5228	48	21	9	3	5875	5228	48	21	9	3	5875	5228	48	21	9	3	5875	5228	48	21	9	2	7833	6971	64	13	9	2	7833	6971	64	13	9	2	7833	6971	48	14	9	2	7833	6971	48	14	9	2	7833	6971	48	15	9	2	7833	6971	48	15	8	2	8134	7239	50	18	8	2	8134	7239	50	18	8	2	8134	7239	48	18	8	2	8134	7239	48	18	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20	8	2	8134	7239	48	20
    Upgr Goldstrike            -                        10	39	134	316	50	250	1167	7827	87	11	3	7677	6678	63	10	11	3	7677	6678	63	10	10	3	7885	6859	65	9	10	3	7885	6859	65	10	10	3	7885	6859	65	11	10	3	7885	6859	65	11	10	3	7885	6859	63	11	10	3	7885	6859	63	11	9	3	8104	7050	65	10	9	3	8104	7050	65	10	9	3	8104	7050	65	12	9	3	8104	7050	65	12	9	3	8104	7050	49	13	9	3	8104	7050	49	13	9	2	10805	9400	65	4	9	2	10805	9400	65	4	9	2	10805	9400	65	5	9	2	10805	9400	65	5	9	2	10805	9400	63	5	9	2	10805	9400	63	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6
    Upgr Goldstrike shael      -                        10	39	134	316	70	250	1167	7827	87	10	3	7885	6859	65	9	10	3	7885	6859	65	9	10	3	7885	6859	65	9	10	3	7885	6859	65	10	9	3	8104	7050	67	10	9	3	8104	7050	67	10	9	3	8104	7050	65	10	9	3	8104	7050	65	10	9	3	8104	7050	65	10	9	3	8104	7050	65	10	9	2	10805	9400	87	4	9	2	10805	9400	87	4	9	2	10805	9400	65	4	9	2	10805	9400	65	4	9	2	10805	9400	65	4	9	2	10805	9400	65	4	8	2	11221	9762	67	4	8	2	11221	9762	67	4	8	2	11221	9762	65	4	8	2	11221	9762	65	4	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	5	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6	8	2	11221	9762	65	6
    Buri                       Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	44	110	375	80	200	1730	6549	84	14	4	8650	7266	69	8	14	4	8650	7266	69	8	14	4	8650	7266	69	8	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	7	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	7	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	8	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	8	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	7	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	7	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	8	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	8	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	11	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	11	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	11	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	12	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	13	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	13	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	13	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12
    Buri shael                 Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	44	110	375	100	200	1730	6549	84	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	5	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	5	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	5	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	77	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	6	13	3,5	9719	8163	75	6	12	3,5	9942	8351	77	6	12	3,5	9942	8351	77	6	12	3,5	9942	8351	77	7	12	3,5	9942	8351	77	7	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	7	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	7	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	8	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	8	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	58	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	9	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	11	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	11	12	3,5	9942	8351	56	11	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	11	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12	11	3,5	10176	8547	57	12
    Upgr Buri                  Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	61,5	163	322	80	200	1905	5609	81	14	4	9525	7715	73	6	14	4	9525	7715	73	6	14	4	9525	7715	73	6	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	5	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	5	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	6	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	6	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	5	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	5	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	6	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	6	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	9	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	9	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	9	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	10	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	11	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	11	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	11	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10
    Upgr Buri shael            Pierce, freeze, cold dam 10	61,5	163	322	100	200	1905	5609	81	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	82	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	4	13	3,5	10702	8668	80	4	12	3,5	10948	8867	82	4	12	3,5	10948	8867	82	4	12	3,5	10948	8867	82	5	12	3,5	10948	8867	82	5	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	5	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	5	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	6	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	6	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	61	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	7	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	9	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	9	12	3,5	10948	8867	59	9	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	9	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10	11	3,5	11205	9076	60	10
    Eagle                      -                        10	39	97	378	0	200	1253	8626	95	15	4	6142	5834	55	13	14	4	6265	5951	56	13	14	4	6265	5951	56	13	13	3	7831	7439	71	9	13	3	7831	7439	71	9	12	3	8032	7630	72	9	12	3	8032	7630	70	9	11	3	8243	7830	72	8	11	3	8243	7830	72	9	11	3	8243	7830	72	9	11	3	8243	7830	72	10	11	3	8243	7830	72	10	10	3	8466	8042	56	9	10	3	8466	8042	56	9	10	3	8466	8042	56	11	10	3	8466	8042	56	11	10	3	8466	8042	56	13	10	3	8466	8042	56	13	9	3	8701	8265	55	11	9	3	8701	8265	55	11	9	3	8701	8265	55	13	9	3	8701	8265	55	13	9	3	8701	8265	55	13	9	3	8701	8265	55	13	9	2	11601	11020	73	4	9	2	11601	11020	73	4	9	2	11601	11020	73	5	9	2	11601	11020	73	5	9	2	11601	11020	73	5	9	2	11601	11020	73	5
    Eagle shael                -                        10	39	97	378	20	200	1242	8626	95	13	3	7762	7373	70	7	12	3	7961	7562	72	7	12	3	7961	7562	72	7	11	3	8171	7762	74	8	11	3	8171	7762	74	8	11	3	8171	7762	74	8	11	3	8171	7762	72	8	11	3	8171	7762	72	9	10	3	8391	7971	74	8	10	3	8391	7971	74	8	10	3	8391	7971	74	9	10	3	8391	7971	74	9	10	3	8391	7971	55	10	10	3	8391	7971	55	11	9	3	8625	8193	57	10	9	3	8625	8193	57	10	9	3	8625	8193	57	11	9	3	8625	8193	57	11	9	3	8625	8193	54	12	9	3	8625	8193	54	12	9	2	11500	10925	73	4	9	2	11500	10925	73	4	9	2	11500	10925	73	4	9	2	11500	10925	73	4	9	2	11500	10925	73	5	9	2	11500	10925	73	5	8	2	11942	11344	76	4	8	2	11942	11344	76	4	8	2	11942	11344	76	4	8	2	11942	11344	76	4
    Upgr Riphook shael         Slow, ll, open wounds    -10	31	76	374	50	220	683	6532	84	9	3	4743	3984	38	24	9	3	4743	3984	38	24	9	2	6324	5312	50	18	9	2	6324	5312	50	19	9	2	6324	5312	50	20	8	2	6567	5516	52	18	8	2	6567	5516	51	18	8	2	6567	5516	51	18	8	2	6567	5516	51	19	8	2	6567	5516	51	19	8	2	6567	5516	51	20	8	2	6567	5516	51	20	8	2	6567	5516	38	21	8	2	6567	5516	38	21	8	2	6567	5516	38	22	8	2	6567	5516	38	22	8	2	6567	5516	38	24	8	2	6567	5516	38	24	8	2	6567	5516	36	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	23	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24	7	2	6830	5737	38	24
    Upgr WWS shaelshael        40 res, lvl 20 MA        0	36,5	89	361	40	170	989	6301	84	10	3	6682	5612	53	15	10	3	6682	5612	53	15	10	3	6682	5612	53	16	10	3	6682	5612	53	16	10	3	6682	5612	53	16	9	3	6868	5769	55	15	9	3	6868	5769	53	15	9	3	6868	5769	53	15	9	3	6868	5769	53	16	9	3	6868	5769	53	16	9	3	6868	5769	53	17	9	3	6868	5769	53	17	9	2	9157	7691	53	12	8	2	9509	7987	55	10	8	2	9509	7987	55	12	8	2	9509	7987	55	12	8	2	9509	7987	55	14	8	2	9509	7987	55	14	8	2	9509	7987	53	14	8	2	9509	7987	53	14	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16	8	2	9509	7987	53	16
    Lycander's                 ml, def                  10	30	73	397	20	200	960	7331	86	13	3	6000	5160	49	19	12	3	6153	5291	50	18	12	3	6153	5291	50	19	11	3	6315	5430	51	17	11	3	6315	5430	51	18	11	3	6315	5430	51	19	11	3	6315	5430	50	19	11	3	6315	5430	50	19	10	3	6486	5577	51	17	10	3	6486	5577	51	17	10	3	6486	5577	51	19	10	3	6486	5577	51	19	10	3	6486	5577	38	20	10	3	6486	5577	38	20	9	3	6666	5732	39	20	9	3	6666	5732	39	20	9	3	6666	5732	39	23	9	3	6666	5732	39	23	9	3	6666	5732	38	23	9	3	6666	5732	38	24	9	2	8888	7643	51	17	9	2	8888	7643	51	17	9	2	8888	7643	51	18	9	2	8888	7643	51	18	9	2	8888	7643	51	18	9	2	8888	7643	51	18	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17
    Lycander's shael           ml, def                  10	30	73	397	40	200	960	7331	86	11	3	6315	5430	51	17	11	3	6315	5430	51	17	11	3	6315	5430	51	17	11	3	6315	5430	51	17	10	3	6486	5577	53	17	10	3	6486	5577	53	17	10	3	6486	5577	51	17	10	3	6486	5577	51	17	10	3	6486	5577	51	17	10	3	6486	5577	51	17	9	3	6666	5732	53	18	9	3	6666	5732	53	18	9	3	6666	5732	39	19	9	3	6666	5732	39	19	9	3	6666	5732	39	20	9	3	6666	5732	39	20	9	2	8888	7643	53	16	9	2	8888	7643	53	16	9	2	8888	7643	51	16	9	2	8888	7643	51	16	9	2	8888	7643	51	17	9	2	8888	7643	51	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17	8	2	9230	7937	53	17
    Upgr Lycander's            ml, def                  10	43	108	362	20	200	1185	6675	84	13	3	7406	6221	59	12	12	3	7596	6380	60	12	12	3	7596	6380	60	12	11	3	7796	6548	62	12	11	3	7796	6548	62	13	11	3	7796	6548	62	13	11	3	7796	6548	60	13	11	3	7796	6548	60	13	10	3	8006	6725	62	12	10	3	8006	6725	62	12	10	3	8006	6725	62	15	10	3	8006	6725	62	15	10	3	8006	6725	46	16	10	3	8006	6725	46	16	9	3	8229	6912	48	17	9	3	8229	6912	48	17	9	3	8229	6912	48	20	9	3	8229	6912	48	20	9	3	8229	6912	46	20	9	3	8229	6912	46	20	9	2	10972	9216	61	7	9	2	10972	9216	61	7	9	2	10972	9216	61	8	9	2	10972	9216	61	8	9	2	10972	9216	61	9	9	2	10972	9216	61	9	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8
    Upgr Lycander's shael      ml, def                  10	43	108	362	40	200	1185	6675	84	11	3	7796	6548	62	11	11	3	7796	6548	62	11	11	3	7796	6548	62	11	11	3	7796	6548	62	12	10	3	8006	6725	64	12	10	3	8006	6725	64	12	10	3	8006	6725	62	12	10	3	8006	6725	62	12	10	3	8006	6725	62	12	10	3	8006	6725	62	12	9	3	8229	6912	64	14	9	3	8229	6912	64	14	9	3	8229	6912	48	15	9	3	8229	6912	48	15	9	3	8229	6912	48	17	9	3	8229	6912	48	17	9	2	10972	9216	64	6	9	2	10972	9216	64	6	9	2	10972	9216	61	6	9	2	10972	9216	61	6	9	2	10972	9216	61	7	9	2	10972	9216	61	7	8	2	11394	9570	64	7	8	2	11394	9570	64	7	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8	8	2	11394	9570	64	8
    Widowmaker shael           lvl 11 MA                0	36,5	72	378	20	200	830	6603	95	11	3	5460	5187	49	18	11	3	5460	5187	49	19	11	3	5460	5187	49	20	11	3	5460	5187	49	20	10	3	5608	5327	50	19	10	3	5608	5327	50	20	10	3	5608	5327	49	20	10	3	5608	5327	49	20	10	3	5608	5327	49	20	9	3	5763	5474	50	20	9	3	5763	5474	50	21	9	3	5763	5474	50	21	9	3	5763	5474	38	22	9	3	5763	5474	38	22	9	3	5763	5474	38	23	9	3	5763	5474	38	23	9	2	7685	7300	50	17	8	2	7980	7581	52	17	8	2	7980	7581	50	17	8	2	7980	7581	50	17	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19	8	2	7980	7581	50	19
    Blood Raven's Charge shael lvl 13 explosive arrows  -10	33,5	87	363	20	230	747	11691	92	11	3	4914	4520	43	23	10	3	5047	4643	44	22	10	3	5047	4643	44	23	10	3	5047	4643	44	23	10	3	5047	4643	44	23	9	3	5187	4772	45	23	9	3	5187	4772	44	23	9	3	5187	4772	44	23	9	3	5187	4772	44	23	9	3	5187	4772	44	23	9	3	5187	4772	44	23	8	3	5335	4908	45	23	8	3	5335	4908	34	24	8	3	5335	4908	34	24	8	3	5335	4908	34	24	8	3	5335	4908	34	24	8	2	7182	6607	46	21	8	2	7182	6607	46	21	8	2	7182	6607	44	21	8	2	7182	6607	44	21	8	2	7182	6607	44	22	8	2	7182	6607	44	22	8	2	7182	6607	44	22	8	2	7182	6607	44	22	8	2	7182	6607	44	22	7	2	7470	6872	46	22	7	2	7470	6872	46	22	7	2	7470	6872	46	22	7	2	7470	6872	46	22	7	2	7470	6872	46	22
    M'avina's Caster shael     lvl 1 MA                 10	43	108	342	60	188	807	5964	83	10	3	5452	4525	43	22	10	3	5452	4525	43	23	10	3	5452	4525	43	24	10	3	5452	4525	43	24	10	3	5452	4525	43	24	10	3	5452	4525	43	24	9	3	5604	4651	43	24	9	3	5604	4651	43	24	9	3	5604	4651	43	24	9	3	5604	4651	43	24	9	3	5604	4651	43	24	9	3	5604	4651	43	24	9	2	7472	6201	43	17	9	2	7472	6201	43	17	9	2	7472	6201	43	19	9	2	7472	6201	43	19	9	2	7472	6201	43	22	9	2	7472	6201	43	22	8	2	7759	6439	43	22	8	2	7759	6439	43	22	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23	8	2	7759	6439	43	23
    M'avina full shael         lots                     10	43	108	417	90	188	937	9158	89	9	3	6506	5790	55	14	9	3	6506	5790	55	14	9	3	6506	5790	55	14	9	3	6506	5790	55	14	9	3	6506	5790	55	15	9	3	6506	5790	55	15	9	2	8675	7720	71	9	9	2	8675	7720	71	10	9	2	8675	7720	71	10	9	2	8675	7720	71	10	9	2	8675	7720	71	12	9	2	8675	7720	71	12	8	2	9009	8018	55	10	8	2	9009	8018	55	10	8	2	9009	8018	55	12	8	2	9009	8018	55	12	8	2	9009	8018	55	14	8	2	9009	8018	55	14	8	2	9009	8018	53	14	8	2	9009	8018	53	14	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16	8	2	9009	8018	53	16
    
    Hope you enjoy :)
     
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    That's really really helpful =D
     
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    Your results are different from your original post on this, what happened?
     
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    Thank you - I hoped it would be :)
    Well, some bugs were corrected (I'm very sorry about those) and people's suggestions changed the numbers some (CS is now incalculated to allow WWS's deadly strike to figure in the numbers, for instance) - if you look at the old thread, the last table I posted is very similar to this one. But as I know people usually only look at the first post, I thought I'd better repost it :)
     
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    Krunch_Kidney IncGamers Member

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    An interesting thing in the original results was that the regular version of the bows did better than the upgraded version, I assumed that was due to the stat pts that could be placed in dex, but it seemed strange nevertheless. In your new findings the upgraded versions outperform the standard versions which makes more sense. Why were the original results different in this regard?
     
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    I know, I found that very interesting myself, but in the end it unfortunately relied upon a calculation mistake on my part - the extra base damage didn't figure correctly in the damage equation. I'm terribly sorry for the wrong guidance given, and I try to redeem myself with this new analysis (which was also published in the last thread, but hidden away on page two, so I thought I'd better announce it in a new thread).
     
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    Sasja

    Thanks for the comments.

    I'm not sure I follow why one bow will get more damage increase from additional dex than another bow, unless the damage increase is a factor of bow base damage in some way.

    Even so, the table I outlined would be great. If you can do it, feel free to PM it to me, in case you don't want to confuse the heck out of everyone else :)

    Cheers

    Bunnz
     
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    The reason why dex doesn't uniformly increase damage is twofold:
    1. Dex appears in the damage equation in the same multiplicator as +damage to demons/undead (which some bows have) and enhanced damage from the Strafe skill (which will be a bit different for bows with +skills). At very low dex, these will become very important, whereas at higher dex they'll be less notable.
    2. At very low dex, your AR will suck, so mods like Ignore Target Defense, +AR and -enemy defense rating will be very important. At higher dex, they'll be less notable
    I don't think it will confuse anyone if I posted them here - anyone reading several tables like these are not easily confused :)
     
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    If you would update the table, please also consider OHM, 40%ED w/15%IAS
    And please include Hellrack as well.
    Thanks a lot.
     
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    I would put more weight on demons/undead on GSA consider this is a Pit running comparison. About 90% of the monsters are demon/undead. Only one monster, the abominable guys, are not of either.

    Also, considering you can hit 2 frames with GSA without being unreasonable (shael it, stealskull, goldwrap and cat's eye), will net you 125% IAS - or 2 frames @ 120% IAS.

    If you swing your table over to 55 off weapon IAS, you'll see that upgraded GSA jumps up to 85%. This makes it a bit misleading when reading your guide, since you have to scroll way over just to see this. In fact, upgraded shael'd GSA overtakes WF at this point at the lower high levels (85 on the table).

    Considering that it seems to be the concensus that goldwrap and stealskull are standard zon MF gear, as well as laying of hands being considered the way to go (since it speeds up your runs by so much), that you should really sacrifice that amulet MF for cat's eye and go with upgraded shael'd GSA to get that incredible 2 frame strafe speed (though next delay is a bit of a problem).

    Its also interesting to see the %'s drop like a rock once BoTD Crusder hits 2 frames at 60% IAS (they all drop to under 70%).

    The above definately makes you definately consider using cat's eye as an amulet along with LoH, Stealskull and Goldwrap if you can get your hands on BoTD Crusader or upgraded shael'd near perfect GSA.

    So you trade 75% MF (amulet of luck, perfect chances) for 350% damage to undead, 50% fire resist, 25 more dex, 30% FRW, and 2 frame strafe. If you have at least 300% base MF, I definately don't see a reason not to do this.

    With the way MF gains drop exponentially, the difference between 300% MF and 375% MF is, for uniques, the difference between 135% MF and 150% MF - not much at all (187% and 214% for sets).
     
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    I put 100% weight on the extra damage to demons/undead. The thing about half is that I count pure +damage to demons at half value (about half are demon) and pure +damage to undead at half value (about half are undead). So GSA which has both will have the extra damage at full value.

    Well, that's why I included all those numbers - so people can make up their own minds! I for one dislike next-delay and would rather take the added mf - but, to each his own.

    Shako is probably as widespread as Stealskull, as its stats are just as sweet and it always comes with perfect mf. And the more equipment you sacrifice for faster kill rate, the more it will hurt your "unique find" - getting your mf from 500 to 600 will not make a big difference, but from 200 to 300 it's quite notable.

    Very true - it does depend a lot on how much mf you get from your inventory. I guess if you're rich enough to have a BotD and a stash full of +7 mf sc, you should seriously consider taking it to 9/2. Though as you say, you'll suffer a bit from next-delay, which in the worst case will cut the piercing damage by a third (from every second arrow having a chance to hit to every third).
     
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    Well, maybe you can try with this equipment setup:

    Tal's mask
    Tal's armour
    Tal's Belt

    Get's leach, life, mf and resist.. lol. Though i guess skullders, stealskull and goldwrap would be better.
     
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    After the discussion with Vajar, I would add something like this if I could still edit the analysis:

    "If you're ready to sacrifice some mf gear for ias, you should be aware that upgraded GSA outperforms upgraded Buriza (87% for shael'ed GSA versus 82% for shael'ed upgr Buri) when your ias from gear is 50% or higher - that could for instance be Cat's Eye, Laying of Hands and Goldwrap. If you compare the AR-corrected damage of the shael'ed up'd Buri at 0% ias (8668) with the AR-corrected damage of the shael'ed up'd GSA at 50% ias (9400) at level 95, you'll see that the Buri at 0% ias is only 8% behind the GSA at 50% ias. This gap will be smaller at higher levels (5% at level 99) and larger at lower levels (14% at level 85). Imho, it's not worth it to sacrifice the mf gear for added ias to get this kind of bonus, especially considering the Buriza's other advantages: Pierce, freeze and cold damage, and the fact that the faster GSA will have more trouble at 9/2 with next-delay than the Buri at 13/3.5."
     
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    I'd just like to say "thank you!" to Sasja. This table is a great help and must've been alot of work. And you've been very accomodating with people's questions and requests. It should definitely be stickied. Awesome job!
     
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    good job again, dear lady! :thumbsup:

    hmm, i see two pertinent weapons to add:

    - upgraded langer briser, slow enough to pass out nextdelay, and a good deal of mf on it+Knockback. the dammage on it isn't that bad either. probably shaeled (not sure if a shaled one would still be slow enough to pass out nextdelay :scratch: ).

    - the "other extreme" of upgraded wws:
    i mean you've put the extreme ias one(dual shael).
    i personally think it would be interesting to put the dual ohm option.
    it might bring quite a different result than the dual shaeled one, and be a very interesting option as well.

    apart from that, againn, very good job. thanks!


    H.
     
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    Very useful! I better copy this up :clap:
     
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    Thank you all :)

    I've made a note of your suggestions and will come back to them as soon as possible. For most of the bows, I think a shael will do the most difference for an mf'er with little or no ias from gear. But of course, for someone considering sacrificing mf for ias, it will be interesting to see - and perhaps Ohm is better for bows like the GSA and Buriza which already have a lot of inherent ias. I'm not going to use a 40/15 in the comparison, as that's a known dupe and banned in the trade forum.

    I've also thought of trying out the +min damage socketing option for the WWS which was recommended by a poster in the original thread. The min damage would then be higher than the max damage. How does that work, exactly - do you get both a bonus to min damage and a bonus to max damage (just enough to take it to min damage + 1)?
     
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    This is absolutely incredible! Thanks for enlightening us noobs. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:
     
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    Max damage is up'd to be min damage +1.
     

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