Doom isn't strictly pvped designed. What everyone forgets is Blizzard improved pvm. "Well if they didn't want doom in pvp why did they put it in the game?" PVM? I don't know. Really, look at the patch and it doesn't say, added new items for pvp. It said it balanced pvm play, and that's exactly what all of the items are intended to do. HOWEVER, some items are better for pvp. Doom IMO is the pussy way out. You can start the game and ebay all you need and with HF and the like, beat most players up. Just because you win doesn't mean you are good. BOTD works for pvp and pvm yes, but I find it absolutely ridiculous to buy the items needed to create it for pvm, when it's not at all necessary. There are a lot of great weapons for pvp that are mannered.eviljr. said:ohhh, is there ne better for strictly pvp? like a doom?