Boner res problems

silentdeathe

Diabloii.Net Member
Boner res problems

Hello, I have a pvp necro (boner). He seems to do well against most classes, But gets completely torn to shreds against most sorceress', mainly ones who use ES. The problem i have is while one fb takes me down, it takes many spears to take down the sorc through ES, making it a often one sided fight.

I use the following equipment:

Shako - None
Dusk Enigma - none
Spirit shield - 35% Resistance to lightning, cold and poison
Storm Circlet (ammy) 23% to cold, lightning and fire
arachnids - none
Treks - none
Ring1 - FCR ring - 8% to fire, cold, poison. 16% lighting.
Ring2 - SOJ
Trang Gloves - 30% cold
HOTO - 30% all resistance (Sometimes switch to white wand when res isnt important to boost damage)
Necro torch - 13% all res
Small res charms - 8% all res
small fire res charms - 32% to fire res

This comes to:

Fire- 14
Cold- 47
Lightning 25
Poison- 41

2k life after BO
4.3-4.4k bone spear damage (up to 6k when using white but that takes down all res by 30%)
135% fcr (goes down to 125% when using white)

So heres my problem, how do i boost my resistances without going under 125% cast, or sacrificing too much damage? All i can think of is prehaps upgrading torch and finding an anni, but past that im pretty stumped :p Help please :laugh:
 

Ce Olba

Banned
silentdeathe said:
Hello, I have a pvp necro (boner). He seems to do well against most classes, But gets completely torn to shreds against most sorceress', mainly ones who use ES. The problem i have is while one fb takes me down, it takes many spears to take down the sorc through ES, making it a often one sided fight.

I use the following equipment:

Shako - None
Dusk Enigma - none
Spirit shield - 35% Resistance to lightning, cold and poison
Storm Circlet (ammy) 23% to cold, lightning and fire
arachnids - none
Treks - none
Ring1 - FCR ring - 8% to fire, cold, poison. 16% lighting.
Ring2 - SOJ
Trang Gloves - 30% cold
HOTO - 30% all resistance (Sometimes switch to white wand when res isnt important to boost damage)
Necro torch - 13% all res
Small res charms - 8% all res
small fire res charms - 32% to fire res

This comes to:

Fire- 14
Cold- 47
Lightning 25
Poison- 41

2k life after BO
4.3-4.4k bone spear damage (up to 6k when using white but that takes down all res by 30%)
135% fcr (goes down to 125% when using white)

So heres my problem, how do i boost my resistances without going under 125% cast, or sacrificing too much damage? All i can think of is prehaps upgrading torch and finding an anni, but past that im pretty stumped :p Help please :laugh:
Get life/fres scs, get a better torch and anni. Get hotspurs. Also, you could use Wizspike+trangs+arachnid+circlet+fcr ring, and use Nokozan as your amulet.

By the way, your dmg is kinda low, what lvl are you? My mate's nec does like 4700 with wizspike setup, and it's a darn welfare nec.
 

silentdeathe

Diabloii.Net Member
Ce Olba said:
Get life/fres scs, get a better torch and anni. Get hotspurs. Also, you could use Wizspike+trangs+arachnid+circlet+fcr ring, and use Nokozan as your amulet.

By the way, your dmg is kinda low, what lvl are you? My mate's nec does like 4700 with wizspike setup, and it's a darn welfare nec.
lvl 85, i dont see why its low :S Only thing not completely maxed is bone prison, and thats not far off. prehaps he has completely maxed that too? Using white it gets boosted up to over 5k, which isnt bad IMO. Im getting all the + to skills i can get, save if i used a +3 psn and bone circ, or a +3 ammy, and an anni. Full skillers and all, i dont see where i am loosing that much damage.
 

elmek

Diabloii.Net Member
Imo your damage is usual for your setup. You can further boost it when using +3bspear white and 3pb circlet, but it's not worth it for other fights than NvN.

From your setup I assume you dont have max block. That's why your live is very low. My necro has max block, 125fcr, similiar damage and 2,1k life after BO. You should be aiming at 3k at least I think. Is this pure vita build?
 

silentdeathe

Diabloii.Net Member
elmek said:
Imo your damage is usual for your setup. You can further boost it when using +3bspear white and 3pb circlet, but it's not worth it for other fights than NvN.

From your setup I assume you dont have max block. That's why your live is very low. My necro has max block, 125fcr, similiar damage and 2,1k life after BO. You should be aiming at 3k at least I think. Is this pure vita build?
This is correct, i dont have max block. This is probably because my skillers dont have life mods on them at this stage, because too many would be out of my price range. How is your life so high with max block? I have put the majority of points in vitality, and only have enough in str for equiptment. where should this extra life be coming from?
 

clairetay

Diabloii.Net Member
emmm just a suggestion.... u shouldnt be using dusk enigma.... go for mp... if im not wrong to use dusk u would need a few points into str until yur ammy or ring has + str
 

SicHalo

Diabloii.Net Member
yeah a mage plate, light plate and even breast plate would have = less strenght needed and more points to vita.

yeah life/all res scs or life scs with single res would be ideal this would raise your hp by quite a bit. maybe even socket that shako with a um or something

Also what about using an anni?

This would save you again more stats as well as giving 10-20 more all res as well as 1+ all skill.

EDIT

true thats a point the monarch requires 156 str IIRC.

but if he did use an anni particulary if its a good one it could save alot of stats and still reach the shield str requirements.
 

jake007

Diabloii.Net Member
emmm just a suggestion.... u shouldnt be using dusk enigma.... go for mp... if im not wrong to use dusk u would need a few points into str until yur ammy or ring has + str
I think a bone necro will have to invest some points into strength if he wants to use Spirit Monarch, no problem with enigma dusk.
 

silentdeathe

Diabloii.Net Member
jake007 said:
I think a bone necro will have to invest some points into strength if he wants to use Spirit Monarch, no problem with enigma dusk.
Yeah^ lol :p

I think ill try get my hands on some of these small res charms, and upgrade my torch and invest in a decent anni. Maybe for those pesky fire sorcs with ES i should go for the wizard spike and 125 fcr setup, i dont think it would be unfair in pub duels to chuck on that ammy, as a little bit of sorb would even out the playing field so its not just a 1-hit-ko :thumbsup:

Thanks for the suggestions, any more would be welcome of course.
 

elmek

Diabloii.Net Member
silentdeathe said:
This is correct, i dont have max block. This is probably because my skillers dont have life mods on them at this stage, because too many would be out of my price range. How is your life so high with max block? I have put the majority of points in vitality, and only have enough in str for equiptment. where should this extra life be coming from?
Well, I have base str, ~200 in dex now and rest in vita. Apart from that some (abound 7) 20l sc's and 6 skillers with 2x life mod.
And ofc 6BO cta on switch. :thumbsup:
 

Nab

Diabloii.Net Member
fire/lite/cold res mods on sc's help.
if you can afford, dual/tri res boots help. also get a higher hoto, 30 res:-/
um'ing gear. its not THAT hard. my old nec has the lowest res anni/torch and still managed it
 

DmUgluk

Banned
I use:
Shako Um
Hoto 30
Eni
Homun Um
Magefist
Arach
Marrow
2 Manald
Craft Amu 10 all res
crap Anni
Perf Necro Torch
together with anya this gets me at 75 all in Hell.
 
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