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Bonehew vs. Reapers Toll

Discussion in 'Hardcore' started by ZappaFan, Apr 6, 2004.

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  1. ZappaFan

    ZappaFan Hardcore Moderator and America Trade Moderator

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    Bonehew vs. Reapers Toll

    Well I'll tell ya, I've been in some pretty intensive debates over which of these are the best Act II merc weapon. I've done a lot of play testing with my (now) lvl 87 Hammerdin with these two setups for my Act II Holy Freeze merc:

    Setup 1:

    Ethereal Reapers Toll (socketed with 40% ED jewe, ~280% ED totall)
    Andarial's Visage (socketed with 15% IAS jewel that adds 20ish fire resist)
    Leviathan Armor (25% DR, socketed with 15% IAS Jewel)
    note: this setup reaches the 6 frame attack

    Setup 2:

    Ethereal Bonehew (~300%, double shael)
    Vampire Gaze (19% DR, 8% LL, unsocketed)
    Leviathan (25% DR, unsocketed)
    (6 frame attack)


    OK, so here's a little poll. Which setup do you think I found to be the most helpful/effective for my Hammerdin? My Hammerdin is primarily a Hell Baal runner and occasional Clone killer.

    Please vote, and reply with your reasoning behind your choice.
     
  2. DarkY

    DarkY IncGamers Member

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    I vote for Reapers.

    I suggest bonehew for only 1 char. Thats a necro.
    Why?
    Well Reapers has nice mod with decripify. It lowers attack dmg/monster speed alot.
    This helps all melee chars. For casters it helps to keep monsters on a safe distance, caus the merc can live longer.
    My necro's merc uses bonehew. Caus i can do decripify myself/have higher lvl skill/other skills. Bonehew is also more psyc. dmg.
     
  3. Watzit2ya

    Watzit2ya IncGamers Member

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    Reapers toll, the Decrep going off almost every 3 strikes with fast attack speed is insane. Not to mention the great life leach. The damage isnt as important, expecially when you compare the versatility this weapon offers on a merc!!

    Nothing against bonehew though, its an amazing merc weapon also!
     
  4. STINGER

    STINGER IncGamers Member

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    In a solo setup i would want the Reapers as your merc is going to kill and he might as well have a little MF. Also it has resists when rock, and occasionally you can get a bunch of little fallen to walk around.

    NOTE: on the fallen, they dont follow your or even tleport with you so they arent a "minion" persay. They are also rather weak and pathetic but hell its kool so WTF.

    My Sorcs Defiance Merc uses Tals Mask, Reapers AMNed and a 4 socke life Ptop Armor and kick tail!!! I cant see how a either of those setups would be unfavorable since with your arura he is killing easily and leeching well.

    Mine did great with Ariocs also, but he was killing so much I gave him the reapers
     
  5. Kyar

    Kyar IncGamers Member

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    Before my Necor died, his Defiance merc had reapers's toll, tals mask, and the Elite duriels shell. The decrip is the main reason, nice LifeLeech aswell.

    I vote Set Up number one ;)
     
  6. ZappaFan

    ZappaFan Hardcore Moderator and America Trade Moderator

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    Sounds like you're talking about Tomb Reaver...


     
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    chinaman1472 IncGamers Member

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    Reapers Toll
    I'd only go Bonhew if the damage was needed.
     
  8. turnips

    turnips IncGamers Member

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    yea...what they said (check out my avatar!!)
     
  9. slick4hire

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    Zappa, according to what u have on the bonehew and bp's that is a 6 frame attack. This is exactly what it calculates on the wep speed calc site.

    One question in regards to this..

    The wep speed site lists an ogre axe with a base speed of 0. The Arreat Summit lists it with a base speed of 10.

    If the Arreat Summit is correct, it would take 100 ias to reach 6 frame attack.

    My question is which site has the correct base speed?
     
  10. det

    det IncGamers Member

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    Reapers gets my vote


    Wanted to ask this in the other thread...isn't it "Leaves?"..or is there a joke I am missing :scratch:
     
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    I Never had a reapers but it looked really good :p

    SO i wont vote since i like Bonehew, as that was the only new elite i ever had in 1.10 :D


    ANd that avatar....leafs do NOT suck!!


    theyll beat the Sens.....I HOPE!! AHHH WE NEED NOLAN BACK!!
     
  12. treldonis

    treldonis IncGamers Member

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    Sport team names never follow proper grammar.

    sarcasm

    Same thing can be said for many of the players.

    /sarcasm
     
  13. det

    det IncGamers Member

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    Looks like there is a huge vote in favour of Reaper so far..

    ...and...um..I started to figure by now that it might be some kind of Canadian Icehockey team...close? :scratch:
     
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    MoUsE_WiZ IncGamers Member

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    Bonehew.
    Why bonehew?
    Because someone's merc autocasting decrep annoys me greatly when attempting to cast LR from a wand on weapon switch.

    Also;
    LEAFS AR WIN TEH CUP~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!1
     
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    Ah hell, shoot me.......all the damn things work great so pick a stick and stick to it!!!!

    hehe
     
  16. cyradis2003

    cyradis2003 IncGamers Member

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    I like bonehew for 1 reason only - The spears crack me up!!!

    Merc:
    *poke poke* *spear spear* *poke poke*
    Hey Ma, looky what I can do!!!

    Me:
    That's nice dear, now kill the big green one in the middle okies?

    Reapers is really nice though, I have one with 12% life leech on my sorc's merc, add a COT 9% leech and a skulders for the mf and he makes a good sorc merc (he takes all the hits so 21 LL keeps him alive and means I can blow all my gold gambling rather than res'ing him)

    I really need to seek help for my addiction .... ohhhhh rings!!! :drool:
     
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    Mr.Bogohossian Banned

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    take out leafs in your avatar and put Turnips or Ottawa instead, then your avatar will own!!!!. PWN I TELL YA> FLIPPING PWNED OMG PWNEEEEEEDD.
    <><<><><><><#@#$#%???!??!??!!? :clap: :surprise: :howdy: YE HA YE HA !!! WOHAHAHAHA. i suppose you are from Ottawa, poor kid.
     
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    Just to clarify, it is Leafs...silly Canadiens...HA another one!! I heart hockey.
     
  19. Cleglaw_Himself

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    I voted for Bonehew. Mainly because its the only one of the two I have now and it rocks.

    I use it for my hammerdin's merc. (My old hammerdin's merc had Reaper's Toll which was awesome also).

    My merc uses Guillaumes face, Bonehew (2 x Amn) and 30Str armour, (but might change to Rattlecage, now that he has 195 str of his own).
    Clone died in under 1 minute.
     
  20. 0takuPryd3

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    I voted for Bonehew because that's simply what I've used. However, I like the extra damage on Bonehew for cold immunes.
     

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