Blizz sorc sorb/stack
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mephiztophelez
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x2 ravens, a snowclash, a blackoak luna (the shield with mass integer sorb, whatever its called) and between 350 & 400'ish total cold res should turn pretty much any blizzard into a refreshing shower.
its also a horrendously cheesy thing to do and winning proves absolutely nothing
Why a Snowclash if you don't even reach 75% CR. You know, with -260% from Cold Mastery, you would need 435% CR to be at 75. Now show me a character that can do that while using 2* Ravens and a Blackoak. Or well, actually, it's quite simple. A hammerdin could do it quite easily. 37* 20/11's, torch and anni would get it at 447% if the torch and anni would be 20 resistances ones. Now show me a hammerdin that carries those charms.
My point is that asking how much resistance can people stack is a stupid question. A hammerdin could stack around 760 CR and still retain 125% FCR. Oh wait, they could just have 740 and use 2* Ravens instead. Oh, and that means 75% CR with 40% Absorb.
With 75% CR and 40% Absorb, you would be receiving 168.3 damage per hit. I don't see how removing 30 damage from that can be worth it if you have the choice to get 85% CR and receive 101 damage per hit. Heck, if you add Snowclash to both, the damage would now be 138 and 71. The 85% CR lessened damage by 67% whereas the Snowclash only 22%. And yes, 67% > 22%.
DayDream
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Well, it's a fact that 20/11's are quite rare. And that's why I said it's not actually a possible solution. However, a hammerdin packed with 20/5's is a threat, easily. They can also get to 430% resistances with no special gear changes along with 2 ravenfrosts. And yes, such hammerdins do exist.
FrankWest
Diabloii.Net Member
You're defying us to find a hammerdin with godly charms/torch/anni? On battle.net?
*/blindfold self*
*/toss dart*
Josiphos
Diabloii.Net Member
Paladins with salvation, a psaph shield, a kiras and 2 ravens will just about ruin your day.
Most people will not do that though.
The short answer is: blizzard remains effective quite a bit longer than say, traps. You can still kill with blizzard even if they put on extra resists. It just takes longer.
If they wanna be jerks and negate you, then just find a new game.
Most people will not do that though.
The short answer is: blizzard remains effective quite a bit longer than say, traps. You can still kill with blizzard even if they put on extra resists. It just takes longer.
If they wanna be jerks and negate you, then just find a new game.
Salvation is no good on any Paladins, it will cripple their damage by quite a lot. Also, in the opening post, it says "excluding paladin cold resistance shields", so you are left with 2 ravens and a Kiras. Not enough to make a Blizz sorc totally ineffective.
HappyAssassin
Diabloii.Net Member
Paladins and some assassins can use cold resist armor also. Kicksins can use jeweled phase blades. BvCs can use Um'd Wizzies. Any class can drink thawing potions for +50 CR. Res boots are also an option. Example setup to negate blizz on a assassin with 1 point dtalon:
Kiras /w Thul
Maras
Nigma
160 CR shield
6 socket phase /w x4 CR Jewels, x2 Um
x2 Ravens
Arach
Trangs
Shadow Dancers or Gores (depends on str)
total resists: 440 (490 with thawing prebuff), 40% absorb
This keeps good damage due to venom and fast kicks, speed suffers a little bit. But, it also uses 16 squares of stash space on specific blizzard negating gear, which is kinda impractical unless you are designed only from hunting blizz.
Kiras /w Thul
Maras
Nigma
160 CR shield
6 socket phase /w x4 CR Jewels, x2 Um
x2 Ravens
Arach
Trangs
Shadow Dancers or Gores (depends on str)
total resists: 440 (490 with thawing prebuff), 40% absorb
This keeps good damage due to venom and fast kicks, speed suffers a little bit. But, it also uses 16 squares of stash space on specific blizzard negating gear, which is kinda impractical unless you are designed only from hunting blizz.
ThatWasShockin
Banned
Since I've built my blizz sorc, 2-3 weeks ago, I've only ran into one person that stacked over 400 resist.
HappyAssassin
Diabloii.Net Member
The only time you will usually get sorbed in a pub is if you meet a good hammerdin, or if you play BM frequently. It's a happy coincidence that most people who are smart enough to negate a blizzer completely are also the type of player who only does it when BM'd.
If you pub with a teammate, you won't get negated often at all, since negating cold is a huge gear sacrafice that leaves you very vulnerable to other players.
If you pub with a teammate, you won't get negated often at all, since negating cold is a huge gear sacrafice that leaves you very vulnerable to other players.
mainaman
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depends on which realm .
on east you cant do that to a max block and dr, bmana abusing blizzer
beethovensvirus
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the best you can do is... 95% stacked over whatever their cold mastery is, then 50% sorb. those are both maxed.
this means you will only take reduce the damage by 97.5%
this means you will only take reduce the damage by 97.5%
Absorb is capped at 40%. If it was capped at 50%, it would mean no damage done, since you would heal half of it and then take half, meaning your life bulb wouldn't've moved at all.
And actually, evne 40% absorb can reduce their damage to 1.8% of their original, as long as you don't have full life. If you do, then it's 3% of their original damage. And this if of course assuming 95% resistances.
Also, with full life, 40% absorb is equal to having 40% resistances. This is of course not counting -100% CR. with -100% CR, that would be a mere -20% resistances (2 * 0.6). If you had less than full life, it would be equal to 64% resistances without -100% CR and 28% with -100% CR.