Blessed Hammer Paladin: Overrated?

Mylady

Banned
RIP-The Jesus has a decent hammerdin this is true but all classes are ease is bull crap when i meet him in pubs i usally hurt him with my ww/trapper and no it not ease vs a bvc either, most casters are not too much of a problem for a hammerdin if it has decent res and well built but most of these hammerdin walk with huge abs which kinda does kill the point as a caster is obviously much easier to wreck with abs
well , tbh vic rated bvc as a medium-hard duel ,but there is no doubt that hammer has advantage ,even morotsojs told he know hammers who would 10-1, 10-0 every barb ...
hammerdins arent overrated, i tried now almost every char/build (with few exceptions) and i must admit that hammer and bvc (i would add druid but i dont like that char ^^) are 2 most powerfull and with least weaknesses chars (ofc its just my opinion others might disagree)


 

CdMagicFind

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I don't see how they're overrated PvM at all.

Their survivability and range of killing are godly PvM. Sure, other things may kill as fast or survive as fast. But usually only one or the other.

My 94 HDin can sometimes take maybe 2.5k damage in seconds somehow, sometimes. That necro with maybe half a k less life won't cut it. =/
 

Camden

Diabloii.Net Member
i totally disagree


many people think that hammer has 9fp tele so sorc with 8fp (105fcr) should never get hit , u will notice that if u duel top hammers u will not dodge hits, walk/tele or whatever u do u will get hammers, u prolly saw RIP-thejesus hammer guide, he rated almost all chars as easy for hdn (except druids), thats 100% true well played hammerdin demolish everything in this game except wind druids (b/c of their minion stack advantage)
Then people there are idiotic if they don't know how to avoid hammers.

Yes, I saw his guide. I also know he's an egotistical nerd that will either dodge a good duelist 1v1 or sorb/bm/whatever it takes to keep his "NEVER LOST A FT5" goin that he's so convinced is true. His strategy for dealing with walkers is similarly...well... clueless. He's a decent hammerdin but way overrated, and shouldn't singlehandedly be taken as evidence in "HAMMER > EVERYTHING"



 

akumaxxyz

Diabloii.Net Member
Then people there are idiotic if they don't know how to avoid hammers.

Yes, I saw his guide. I also know he's an egotistical nerd that will either dodge a good duelist 1v1 or sorb/bm/whatever it takes to keep his "NEVER LOST A FT5" goin that he's so convinced is true. His strategy for dealing with walkers is similarly...well... clueless. He's a decent hammerdin but way overrated, and shouldn't singlehandedly be taken as evidence in "HAMMER > EVERYTHING"
so true, even though i dont know this rip hdin or w/e but long range not dumb caster>hdin



 

Ce Olba

Banned
i consider skills like,fireball,iceblast,blizzard,guided arrow,bonespirit,lightning are all long range.

if hdin doesnt doesnt massive sorb he will lose to these easy
Lightning is easily dodged. Not to mention that a decent Hammerdin would end up with around +80% LR due to points in resist lightning.

Fireball? As an attack it's pathetic: linear and does average damage.

Guided arrow? Again, as an attack, it's not that good, only the d/a/e are good.

Ice blast? You are kidding, right? It's so freaking slow. You would have to build an amazing trap to force someone to get hit by some.



 

CdMagicFind

Diabloii.Net Member
He won't lose easily and he won't get owned. The 80% may help, but it's not like lightning isn't as good anymore because you have 5% more resist to it. If anything, even a very little absorb will outweigh the 5% extra res.

Anyway, imo, overrated PvP because it is fairly rated PvM.
 

Emanuel

Diabloii.Net Member
Then people there are idiotic if they don't know how to avoid hammers.

Yes, I saw his guide. I also know he's an egotistical nerd that will either dodge a good duelist 1v1 or sorb/bm/whatever it takes to keep his "NEVER LOST A FT5" goin that he's so convinced is true. His strategy for dealing with walkers is similarly...well... clueless. He's a decent hammerdin but way overrated, and shouldn't singlehandedly be taken as evidence in "HAMMER > EVERYTHING"
Lol wtf man have you ever seen him play if not how can you say he is overrated? I can agree he seem a bit egotistical and he never speaks in game but from what i've heard/seen he is ****ing godly. I've spoken with meny nice pvp players in Europe and most of them said they've played him 1on1 so i don't get where you get that from, that he dodge. I saw him with some RiP friend 3 days ago... they nked me and clean they whole server in 1 second ROFL. :)



 

Dennis_KoreanGuy

Diabloii.Net Member
aha, is vic still going on about his never lost first to 5 theory

anywho, emanuel, you dont need much skill to wipe a pub with a hammer/bonenec, hammer/bower, hammer/windy, or even a hammer/hammer combo.
 

Rabbitz

Diabloii.Net Member
I've met and dueled RipTheJesus, he's an arrogant ***** but I like him ^^

His lockups are mad sweet but he lacks in connecting them with desyncs, im the aspect I can find you 2 ladder hammerdins which would beat him. He clearly does a better job vs other opponents though.
 

Emanuel

Diabloii.Net Member
aha, is vic still going on about his never lost first to 5 theory

anywho, emanuel, you dont need much skill to wipe a pub with a hammer/bonenec, hammer/bower, hammer/windy, or even a hammer/hammer combo.
How should i know?! All i know is that those persons i've spoken (like Ben,aT-spawn and others) with said Vic is really nice player and he is sadly to say 1 of the best pvper i've ever seen in d2 ~_~. I don't like him personally, but in the same way i don't hate him either dunno why he is kinda cool somehow :), and he never say a word and just nake me or anyone else but unless someone is really dumb you can't deny he is really skilled wether we like or not.



 
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Emanuel

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I've met and dueled RipTheJesus, he's an arrogant ***** but I like him ^^

His lockups are mad sweet but he lacks in connecting them with desyncs, im the aspect I can find you 2 ladder hammerdins which would beat him. He clearly does a better job vs other opponents though.
Might be true. But i don't see any reason for it. Vs me he often desync out of map and tele right on me from desync but yeah mostly he dosent seem to need it. Desynch is not as good to be effective against meni players as lock combined with escape desync. I have never seen a effective hammer near ppl like jesus (and some others) using desync as main style to be honest.



 

kohlman

Diabloii.Net Member
Lightning is easily dodged. Not to mention that a decent Hammerdin would end up with around +80% LR due to points in resist lightning.
If its lightning from a Lightning Sentry assasin, it cant be dodged as easily when they are mind blasting you into the trap fire, especially when they know how to place traps.

Hammerdins and Windies are hands down the best characters if you want a character that will have the easiest time handling the most with the least effort. an accidental hammer can kill half of the characters in the game 1 hit ko. windies have minion stack and 2 types of damage and an unblockable attack except for claw-block. I have yet to make a hammerdin due to the overpopulation of them already, but i kinda do want to see just exactly how powerful they are...my interest is growing...
 

TheBe

Diabloii.Net Member
Never lost FT5 ?

Nice.. Not many people are "born to play with hdin" and know all the tactics and tricks it takes:rolleyes: . IF that is true (which I really doubt, then I would say "nice"), but cause there is pretty high chance that it's just bull s***, I won't.

Also, hdins are good both in pvp and pvm, but not too many can actually play with them.

:wink:
 

Sechler

Diabloii.Net Member
Guided arrow? Again, as an attack, it's not that good, only the d/a/e are good.
Any good bowa should do well if not consistently beat a good hdin (w/o grief). As long as they have enough frw to stay outta his gspot when he nl/tele's you can wear them down. Granted it will take 8 or so 6k GA's to do this so some patience is req'd. Usually i lose cuz of something stupid like retracing my steps back through an area that they just desynced w/ hammies.



 

SicHalo

Diabloii.Net Member
Lol wtf man have you ever seen him play if not how can you say he is overrated? I can agree he seem a bit egotistical and he never speaks in game but from what i've heard/seen he is ****ing godly. I've spoken with meny nice pvp players in Europe and most of them said they've played him 1on1 so i don't get where you get that from, that he dodge. I saw him with some RiP friend 3 days ago... they nked me and clean they whole server in 1 second ROFL. :)
lol RipJesus is overated i meet these guys alot in pubs, Redlaw and sometimes the blizz sorc. I mean godly hmm no in pubs they get hurt they town nk, rinse and repeat, most pvp cutters can do this in pubs anyway or decent skilled ppl.

On wwtrapper i hurt them they town the only time Redlaw could not town was when i had him mb locked + wof and hitting him with traps. irc he dropped nice prize money for me :rolleyes:

plus ive seen better hammerdins than this...

Ive Seen Ben arround i think he still has that windy..



 
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