You ONLY need shield in bvb. Block is NOT needed in ANY other duel period. Any other meleechar can be killed with crap def and no block.luiccn said:idk without shield no block, so u got dmged every time, ebotdz + ss is the best weapon combo, ebotdz + beastz is PvM purposes.
Botd is actually better for barbs. You get better avg damage with botd+highlords+gores+mastery than any possible dc-setup.Paulsummoner said:To my opinion, there are two weapons that are very powerfull for barb:
1.Death Cleaver for it's Death Strike, togother with critical strike from weapon mastery you will have 74% to do double damage.
2.ebotd Berserker axe, for it's average damage and speed and other useful things.
But which one is better I don't know. However I would go for Cleaver, for it's deadly strike, but I may be wrong, someone correct me, please.
I refuse to accept that.blobs said:actually u dont need block for melee vs melee either, even to fight bvb barbs.
of course this only works if you have perfect or near perfect gear and use certain whirl tricks, but my barb with 8k defense, no block can take out all but the best bvb barbs, and get pretty good ratios even on eth bug arreat / eth bug stone type bvbs with mass open wounds and all.
Shield barbs have 40k defense nonshield has 20k.the tricks is this... shield barbs have 6k life, nonshield has 7.5k.
Shield barbs by virtue of block & defense wont be hit by 90% of shieldless barb attacks.i.e 1 in 10.Shield barbs hit 1-2 times per whirl intersection, non-shield hits 2-3 times
I disproved the notion that a shieldless barb has a much higher chance of hitting above, for the second part:Therefore, it is extremely in the advantage of the shieldless to intersect as little as possible, since a shieldless barb has a much higher chance of hitting AND triggering open wounds. however, a shieldless barb gets less % life taken off per open wounds, while opwn wounds hurts a shielded lower life barb far more %age wise.
Easier said then done especially when the specs are against you.combine this with sudden attacks, leap + telewhirls to the side, and whirling at ends and capping whirls to maximize your contact surfaces while minimizing time spent in his whirl, and usually even BvB barbs will get owned real fast. therefore theres no reason at all, even for bvb, to use a shield.
/w *rikstaker1 on useast ladder, I Havent got a barb atm but my witchyzon can provide some entertainment.:lol:/w *blobs uswest if u got a bvbbarb to try and fight my shieldless.