Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

smokiebacon

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Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

So i just recently started a lightning sorc as my first character. so how can i get the Infinity runeword from scratch?
 

slowflow

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

You mean from scratch as in playing an untwinked character? Take time to scrounge up a stock of tradeables and currency. I haven't played for several years and I'm about to come back, but for better answers you should be a little bit more specific.
 

ThomasJohnsen

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

...you should be a little bit more specific.
He seems pretty specific to me. It's clear he want's it for free or with as little effort as possible. And using the search function to find one of the (many) "Get Rich Fast" guides was apparently too much work.

To be a little helpful: There are many ladder-reset giveaways and there will be many more. You can get it all for free :coffee: now aint the world a peculiar place :girly:.



 

jamesL

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

He seems pretty specific to me. It's clear he want's it for free or with as little effort as possible. And using the search function to find one of the (many) "Get Rich Fast" guides was apparently too much work.

To be a little helpful: There are many ladder-reset giveaways and there will be many more. You can get it all for free :coffee: now aint the world a peculiar place :girly:.
that's not what I got at all
doing something "from scratch" means making it yourself, so I understood him to mean "at what level do I find the runes? is there a specific place to look for them? do I need a certain level of magic find? are there certain bosses are areas that are better to run?"


 

ThomasJohnsen

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

that's not what I got at all
doing something "from scratch" means making it yourself, so I understood him to mean "at what level do I find the runes? is there a specific place to look for them? do I need a certain level of magic find? are there certain bosses are areas that are better to run?"
If this is the case, then the get rich guides will help him immensely.

But there is no such thing as a self-made Infinity made with all self-found runes. You will need 64 (!) lucky (1 in 11 iirc) Hell hell-forge drops of Gul to cube the 2 Bers and an additional semi-lucky drop of Mal and Ist.
If that indeed is what he intends, then he should make a thread about the progress - I'm sure it'll make a good read. Even with several accounts, it will take quite a while.

#EDIT: I'm sorry for being a bit rude, but I've been a member quite a while, and not a week goes by without someone asking how to get rich really fast. And the truth is you don't (!) unless you by chance stumble upon something extremely rare (10fcr, 20str, 15dex, 90mana, [email protected] ring comes to mind).



 
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ThomasJohnsen

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Actually, there is a handful of self-found Infinities in the Single Player forum. Very rare, but they're there.
Thank you for that. Might have known that someone would have made one - all sorts of experiments have been completed in Dii - take Superdaves cracked sash passive Zon.

So my wording wasn't quite right, when I said "no such thing".
Let me rephrase it to "a very rare thing".



 

Elyxthaxzus

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Agree with TJ...Though they're out there in single player, it's mostly due to the game being out for longer then my son's been around, and if you've played for long enough in a controlled environment like that (no ladder resets, etc.), your going to come up with them eventually.

A reasonable approach to gaining one is leveling a toon that you can MF with, MF till you get lucky drops, trade those lucky drops for runes, and trade for a socketable item (or farm one), and voila! tahts how i've done it numerous times.And i persoanlly still consider that from scratch, since im still doin all the work for trading and such. But finding the runes yourself? won't happen realistically within the time frames of a normal ladder.
 

DoomBoy

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

I agree with Elyx. There's another option, but that includes running lower kurast, killing the council, and then to top it all off, finding the countess over 1 million times.
 

Hrus

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Agree with TJ...Though they're out there in single player, it's mostly due to the game being out for longer then my son's been around, and if you've played for long enough in a controlled environment like that (no ladder resets, etc.), your going to come up with them eventually.

... But finding the runes yourself? won't happen realistically within the time frames of a normal ladder.
No, they are out in SP becuase it was found how much Lower Kurast chest running is effective and how the LK chests are bugged. For a dedicated runner it's not a problem to have Infinity in few months. It only takes like ~20K LK runs. (which is not a lot considering no tempbans and static maps = 30 second per run)



 

SeCKSEgai

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

No, they are out in SP becuase it was found how much Lower Kurast chest running is effective and how the LK chests are bugged. For a dedicated runner it's not a problem to have Infinity in few months. It only takes like ~20K LK runs. (which is not a lot considering no tempbans and static maps = 30 second per run)
When the game is that repetitive I would stop playing. A few months is one thing, but over the course of 20,000 runs or so seems a bit extreme. At that point you're really just a mouse running a wheel over and over....

Don't get me wrong, I've killed baal countless times, and over 90 solo uber runs (only reason I know is because I kept every standard of heroes in hopes it does something in next patch. Right now I'm killing council with my newly made goldfind barb. Sure its repetition, (can't avoid it) but not to the brain-numbing point. At least I have to think (just a little) when dealing with council or getting to baal and clearing his minions.

But come to think of it, I'm that same mouse, my wheel is just a bit bigger ;) If I didn't pvp I wold have burned out by now.


 

SnickerSnack

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Actually, someone recently made a thread in the SP forum where it took them about 2 months only running about 138 runs per day. That's about 2 hours (or 1:15 if you're fast) a day, so you can do other things as well. It's not like it takes 8 hours a day for two months.

The only reason that I haven't done it is because I've only been playing SP less than a year, so there's still a lot for me to do before I start doing runs on one target that total in the thousands.
 

MichelRPG

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Getting an Infinity from scratch can take absurdly long or can happen within a week, if you are willing to trade.

I can only recommend you to check whatever trading section-area you play in (Europe, USeast) and whenever you find something you believe is valuable, check the the Trade Value forums and look around (or ask). Trading on the forums is simply the best way to gain an Infinity, though patience is a must-have virtue.

While it IS possible to find the runes needed for such a runeword, your chances are so absurdly low of that happening that you can forget it happening. A mal or Ist or even a Gul can drop, I've seen that happen. But a Ber rune is so extremely rare you most likely will never be able to find a legit one yourself.


Also, I am not sure how new you are to the game, but I recommend you ask an experienced trader how it would work IF you find items to trade for those runes. I recommend you try and trade items for the runeword as a whole, and not trade for the runes individually (in regards to our "friends"; the Dupes)
 

ThomasJohnsen

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

When the game is that repetitive I would stop playing. A few months is one thing, but over the course of 20,000 runs or so seems a bit extreme. At that point you're really just a mouse running a wheel over and over....
Vouch.


Actually, someone recently made a thread in the SP forum where it took them about 2 months only running about 138 runs per day. That's about 2 hours (or 1:15 if you're fast) a day, so you can do other things as well. It's not like it takes 8 hours a day for two months.
Still - 2 hours a day for 2 monts. Sounds an awful lot like work to me. And very very monotonous work at that. I though this was a game - and that the idea was to have fun playing it.
Instead of an Infinity, my advice would be to team up with a friend playing a LR necromancer or a conviction paladin. This would allow you to actually play the game (instead of just countless runs) and have some fun along the way. A team of 2 characters, that support each other, should be able to beat the game rather easy - even untwinked.
This is why I don't play SP. But to each his/her own.

[/$0.02]



 

Hrus

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Thomas Johnsen: SP can be played in a way an individual wants. Many of SPFers play untwinked characters, even more play untwinked HC characters (without Pkers). But a lot of us are dedicated MF runners (or LK runners nowadays ;) ). That doesn't mean that we don't play the game occasionally. (We also quest in a MP games without any rushes... usually)

That only does mean that you have to work hard to get legit high runes in dupe-free environment. Getting those HR is like a quest for us. And we enjoy fullfilling it. Unfortunatly you can't run that way in BNet (no /players command, no static maps) and repetitive doesn't mean boring. And you can watch TV while doing those runs... ;)
 

ThomasJohnsen

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Thomas Johnsen: SP can be played in a way an individual wants. Many of SPFers play untwinked characters, even more play untwinked HC characters (without Pkers). But a lot of us are dedicated MF runners (or LK runners nowadays ;) ). That doesn't mean that we don't play the game occasionally. (We also quest in a MP games without any rushes... usually)

That only does mean that you have to work hard to get legit high runes in dupe-free environment. Getting those HR is like a quest for us. And we enjoy fullfilling it. Unfortunatly you can't run that way in BNet (no /players command, no static maps) and repetitive doesn't mean boring. And you can watch TV while doing those runs... ;)
I completely agree with alot you're saying. And I have read many of your guides and posts and know you to be a very intelligent member. But to me this game is about friends, chatting and teamwork, neither of which are possible in SP. Thus the choice is easy for me.
A B.net without lag, PK, TPPK, dupes etc. would be preferable of course.



 

jamesL

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

what is an "LR necromancer" ?

lightning resistant ? lower resists ?
 

ThomasJohnsen

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

what is an "LR necromancer" ?

lightning resistant ? lower resists ?
The latter. In a 3 player team with a conviction paladin and a necromancer using lower resist, any third member with an elemental attack (a sorceror or a trapper or something along those lines) will dish out significant damage.
And a meat-shield of skeletons is allways nice to have.

Though a certain degree of lightning resistance is implied (or have a serious range of Dim Vision), if you go places with gloams.



 

MichelRPG

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Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Though a certain degree of lightning resistance is implied (or have a serious range of Dim Vision), if you go places with gloams.
You'll want both. Trust me. Gloams in act 5 specifically have an absurd long range of attack. I often have to endure 2-3 hits of lightning before standing close enough to Dim Vision them.
 

jel

Banned
Re: Best Way to get Infinity from Scratch

Imagine if bots on b.net started running LK in stead of doing baal runs, that'd be a nice change.

Vouch.




Still - 2 hours a day for 2 monts. Sounds an awful lot like work to me. And very very monotonous work at that. I though this was a game - and that the idea was to have fun playing it.
Instead of an Infinity, my advice would be to team up with a friend playing a LR necromancer or a conviction paladin. This would allow you to actually play the game (instead of just countless runs) and have some fun along the way. A team of 2 characters, that support each other, should be able to beat the game rather easy - even untwinked.
This is why I don't play SP. But to each his/her own.

[/$0.02]
If someone find the part "achieving your own wealth no matter how hard it is" of the game fun, then they're having fun, but if they feel like when most people get rushed or most people play WoW that they really want to be at a higher level not wanting to go through all this, wishing to be able to start at level 99, having the gear from the start, not having to do all the stuff in WoW likewise which some even pays other to do (yep they pay for a game, then they pay for it monthly so they can play online and then they pay others to play for them, (of course so they still get the parts they think is funny)), then by all means just mod the game up so you've the item you seek, but in respect for others make sure not to ruin others game by taking advantage of your advantage when playing multiplayer or something like that, though if you're playing multiplayer, just team up with a conviction paladin as mentioned above.


 
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