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BEST? Singer Weapon(s)

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Ooi, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. Ooi

    Ooi IncGamers Member

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    BEST? Singer Weapon(s)

    Looks like there are four viable weapons/shield for the Singer barb I have no clue of the Best Combination. I suggested a few combinations at the bottom o_O

    -Hoto: 3 skiller = more damage blah blah, 40res possible

    -Wizzy: Nice Mana, high res, and better fcr than hoto, yet lacks damage

    -Spirit: 35 possible fcr making it the lowest of the 3, however provides decent points to vita, some res, 2 to skills, and Uber 55 FHR

    -StormSheild: always nice for max block



    Dual Hotos
    Dual Wizzies
    Hoto/Wizzy
    Dual Spirit
    hoto/SS

    etc.

    thx in advance
    Ooi
     
  2. soul killer

    soul killer Banned

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    Hoto/spirit make a very nice combo for a singer,nice dmg,fcr is amazing and spirit offers a mana boost and fhr :drooles:
     
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    DIEnamic IncGamers Member

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    I'd give you major brownie points just for dual wielding wizzy spikes. this might help you

    FCR Frames
    0% 13
    9% 12
    20% 11
    37% 10
    63% 9
    105% 8
    200% 7

    FHR Frames
    0% 9
    7% 8
    15% 7
    27% 6
    48% 5
    86% 4
    200% 3
    4680% 2

    maybe I'm wrong, but isn't war cry blockable now? I haven't seen a war cry barb since 1.09.
     
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    Imbecile IncGamers Member

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    Warcry is blockable, unfortunately.
     
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    SicHalo IncGamers Member

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    i found that duel wizzys was a bit better although u will get 3+ skills the dmg difference was a mere 200 maximum and wizzys get u to the bp easier as u only then need 5% fcr which u can get from gloves belt, amu or rings.

    Also not to mention the stack res and mana lvls u get.

    Again it depends on if ur trying a pvm build or pvp. Cuz pvp i would take the duel wizzies.

    yeah WC does get blocked this is wot reduces its effectiveness definetly in pvp as it has low dmg and can be blocked :/
     
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    Arbedark IncGamers Member

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    Hoto / Spirit Monarch is the best PvM combo imo.

    Its what I used, and was great all round.
     
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    BildBenny IncGamers Member

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    I went with an 'Insight' Stave on mine. Still managed to reach 105% FCR.
     
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    Indemaijinj IncGamers Member

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    If you go with dual Wizzys why not aim for the 200% breakpoint?

    It is very possible. You only need an extra 100%

    20% from arachnid mesh. (if not, then 10% from a crafted caster belt)
    20% from either Trang's or Magefists (this does mean you'll have no Frostburn though).
    30% from Skin of the Vipermagi or 20% from Que Hegan's (this does mean you'll miss out on you Enigma, if that is so darn important in your duelling league).
    10-20% from your (caster crafted) amulet.
    20% from your circlet (this unfortunately means you can not use your "theoretical" Echoing barbarian hat with +3 Cry/+3 Orders).
    10% from a ring or two (means you'll miss out on a Stone of Jordan or two).
     
  9. Uvatha

    Uvatha IncGamers Member

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    You dont want to reach 200% FCR, it is bugged, trust me.

    2xHotO is the way to go. Ive being testing last 15 days, and after gearing my merc with an insight, I could drop all but a few mana charms, and I never poted mana, even when mana-burned.

    Just changed belt from glooms to arach and FCR got back to 210% FCR (ammy=10% in my case). Resistances are fine all the same, and none of my hotos are perfect (1 hard point on nat res + torch/anni and I have like 20~ all res stacked).

    Using 2 HotOs you dont need echo-shifts to prebuff BO/Shout/BCommand, opening slots for 2x Carvers for Horking (fun drops as my skill is level 29 with no hard points spent).
     
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    Indemaijinj IncGamers Member

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    Bugged? In what way?

    I think I have the gear (and the character) to try it out, though I am SP so no PvP.
     
  11. Uvatha

    Uvatha IncGamers Member

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    Double casts, miscasts, only cast animation no spell actually casted... that sort!

    If you are SP, then youve got no insight for your merc (I guess?). In that case, you want your War Cry at level 33, witch is the best damage/lvl.mana output. So no need for the HotOs, and the mana from 2x Wizzy are more than welcome.
     
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    on my bvc singer i use 2x 90 res wizardspikes with arach to hit the 105 fcr bp and i feel that would be the best singer weapons for what i do with my barb.
     
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    Indemaijinj IncGamers Member

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    We do have a little "workaround" for that. :wink3:
    ..Consider this a a way for us "SPF'ers" to get back at Blizzards new policy of shortchanging their Single Player customer base.
     
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    Is that not because of your comp? 200%FCR Sorcs work. I don't see why barbs won't since they have same BP.
     
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    The 200fcr bp bug is only for tele.
    It casts beautifully for WC and sounds hilarious.
    Low damage/blockable makes it hard to stand by in pvp though.
    Probably one of the funnest builds, though I recommend a might act2 merc with ebotd ghost spear if you want to kill... anything in pvm.
    GL HF
     
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    I use a good old 200 fcr singer where if u want to use enigma theres only 1 choice which is dual wizzies. Note that on singers mana is HUGE problem and wizzies do help a little (not much) spirits add MASSES AND MASSES of mana good fcr and fhr is a bonus

    A few stats on my barb:
    Bo level: 54 (only a +5 wc helm, i switch equip for bo otherwise i wouldnt have 200 fcr)
    life: 6.3k
    fcr: 200
    fhr: 70 or so
    mana: 1.7k
    Resists in hell: 80/75/75/75 (each stacked around to an extra +50 on all)

    problems: my ping is around 50-100 so warcry doesnt go at full speed
    solution buy new computer and probably connection OR change equip

    problem 2: my mana STILL WILL run out in duels
    Solution 1: buy excedingly expensive life + mana charms
    Solution 2: use mana pots

    problem 3: i put some points into energy
    solution: get shouted by every1 on this fourm for being such a noob putting points into energy

    problem 4: palas seem to own him
    solution: get other char kill all palas then rj with singer

    Interesting info:
    Trangs belt + gloves rule cos of fireball, not for damage but distraction.
    I duelled my mates orb sorc who was very defensive with her if i even thought of teleing close he would tele off. we were at 1:1 (once my warcry gets going (on first 4 casts its slow cos of my computer, but after woooooooooooooo max speed so when i caught him and he didnt tele soon enough he died (after use of 2 mana pots, damn 92% es -.-))
    Then i switched to trangs for the fireball so now 180 fcr (2 lazy to change equip completely to 105 fcr) i cast fireballs at him from range, he goes on offensive cos i have better range, he teles to close BAM :) won 3 times in a row until i told him to ignore fireballs and duel like b4 and he started winning again :p

    oh to those who dont know warcry damage in duels is simply worked out:
    damage of warcry divided by 6 (for some reason battle cry adds damage, try it in pvm, ive found it adds 100 damage when hitting people (1.3k over 6 = 220 or so) usually hit 300 damage after battle cry (level 40))
    after you divide damage by 6 then lower by % that the person ur duelling has damage reduce (eg stormshield has 35% dr) i did a full 15 damage vs a energy shield with 92% dr once i removed the mana i dealt normal damage and sorc died shortly after
     

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