best pvp character

aeonzon

Diabloii.Net Member
best pvp character

is amazon or sorceress?

amazon can use multi which might work better over guided against a sorc because a sorc with enough frames can easily cancel the lock on guided. they are slow though and can never match teleport by foot.

sorceress can be easily countered with enough absorb but otherwise her teleport used skillfully can dodge anything and zoom across the screen.
 

eLight

Diabloii.Net Member
This is getting rather annoying with all these "the beztzor" threads. Read the other threads and ask questions there instead please. :thumbsup:
 

IN_FLAMES

Banned
Since I play NL, Bowazons are only good if you have LeeT DuPeZ. Sorcs are stupid. I hate sorcs. They're the easiest class to play, the cheapest to equip, and the most annoying. But then again I'm biased.

Don't make either.
 

Phyrexial

Diabloii.Net Member
Okay, this question has been asked way too many times. I would tell you to use the "Search" button but apparently you can't search for "best" because it is too short or too common. :eek:

In any case, read these and your questions will be answered. Very very thouroughly.

- Best PvP-er Now

- Who Can Beat Them? (Windy, Trapper)

- Best Pubby Dueler

- Dueler to Have a Very Good Chance vs All

- Best PvP Char in 1.10

- Strongest Char PvP

- Best PvP Build (the recurring theme)

- Unbeatable Char

- Best PvP build

- This link is gold, read it and know it. There is Always a Better Character

Lastly, read the FAQ at the top of the forum. It has this little piece of info that is ever so useful:

PvP FAQ said:
The eternally stupid and returning questions.

What's the best PvP character?
There isn't any. Some builds do better than others, but nearly all have some opponent with which they have a seriously hard time. If you ask in the individual class forums, you're sure to find someone saying their type of character is the best, but since you'll find this everywhere, it is also sure not to be the truth.

What's the best <insert item> for <insert class or build>?
There isn't any "best" here either. Most classes/builds have some de facto standard gear which is considered top notch, for instance Paladins have their class unique Herald of Zakarum shield, barbarians have Arreat's Face helm and so on. For all of them goes it's a great item for many PvP variants, but other variants will be better off with some other gear. Read a guide for the type of build you're planing to make, don't ask for the best.

What's best, Wind Druid or Necromancer?
None of them, a goods players can beat eachother with them, no matter your personal experience.
I think I'll be linking to this post every time anyone asks this question from now on. Maybe sooner or later it will get stickied. ;)
 

Darknicrofia

Diabloii.Net Member
we are all very very very very tired of going through this kind of debate all over again for the 59th time, and by the way, neither sorc or bow zon comes even remotely close of being the best pvper by far, they both have major weaknesses, check other threads please i dont feel like getting into this debate again.... :yawn:
 

dkay

Diabloii.Net Member
cry more speedlander :)

these discussions always go around in circles.. pretty pointless ;/

i think that xirc should sticky phrex's post.. its the sexiest thing ive ever seen in the pvp forum.
 

lCE

Diabloii.Net Member
I think pretty much everyone should agree that a bvc barb makes the BEST all around dueler. in good hands they have good chance vs all classes, and even vs their hardest matchups (probably bone necs, hammerdins and bvbers) they have a chance to come out on top. Whereas some classes are completely countered by others, making a duel very one sided. Some spring to mind - trapper vs wind druid for example.
 

soc

Banned
lCE said:
I think pretty much everyone should agree that a bvc barb makes the BEST all around dueler. in good hands they have good chance vs all classes, and even vs their hardest matchups (probably bone necs, hammerdins and bvbers) they have a chance to come out on top. Whereas some classes are completely countered by others, making a duel very one sided. Some spring to mind - trapper vs wind druid for example.
Last time I checked Summoning Druid > BvC Barb > All

I mean, they can't die as they stand in town, and they can cast level 47 bears and wolves to pkzomglolggnore. Plus level 47 Ravens=ownage.
 

'22'Souljah

Diabloii.Net Member
aeonzon said:
is amazon or sorceress?

amazon can use multi which might work better over guided against a sorc because a sorc with enough frames can easily cancel the lock on guided. they are slow though and can never match teleport by foot.

sorceress can be easily countered with enough absorb but otherwise her teleport used skillfully can dodge anything and zoom across the screen.
you forgot all the other 5 characters
by the way you're making things sound it seems like an 09 comparism

soc said:
I mean, they can't die as they stand in town, and they can cast level 47 bears and wolves to pkzomglolggnore. Plus level 47 Ravens=ownage.
if you want to stay in town then it's fair for me to run bakc to town to heal everytime i almost die too making it a tie
so it's summon druid tie whatever chars can take a few hits
 

Phyrexial

Diabloii.Net Member
soc said:
Last time I checked Summoning Druid > BvC Barb > All

I mean, they can't die as they stand in town, and they can cast level 47 bears and wolves to pkzomglolggnore. Plus level 47 Ravens=ownage.
Well, if you actually consider that dueling then technically any summon class wins. Shadow Master sin, Golem Necro, Summon Druid, Valk zon, etc. If you don't actually leave town, I don't think that constitutes dueling at all though.

Now, I can see someone trying to make the argument that the Druid's Bear would kill any of the other summons thus making it the winner by killing the other's minion. I'd make the preemptive argument that if you deem that winning, the win condition is killing the opponent's summon thus meaning that if a player simply went out and killed the bear then they win by that logic. Your summon died, thus you lose. Actually, a pure summoning necro would probably win in a duel of town duelers with it's army of aura enhanced skels/Revives. Just though I'd kill that argument before someone brought that up.
 

dkay

Diabloii.Net Member
Phyrexial said:
Well, if you actually consider that dueling then technically any summon class wins. Shadow Master sin, Golem Necro, Summon Druid, Valk zon, etc. If you don't actually leave town, I don't think that constitutes dueling at all though.

Now, I can see someone trying to make the argument that the Druid's Bear would kill any of the other summons thus making it the winner by killing the other's minion. I'd make the preemptive argument that if you deem that winning, the win condition is killing the opponent's summon thus meaning that if a player simply went out and killed the bear then they win by that logic. Your summon died, thus you lose. Actually, a pure summoning necro would probably win in a duel of town duelers with it's army of aura enhanced skels/Revives. Just though I'd kill that argument before someone brought that up.
he was prolly just kidding o_o
 

soc

Banned
Wow. You guys should get out a little bit more. It's just a joke. I'm particularly amused by Phrexial's in-depth analysis.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Summon Druid > BvC, let alone Summon Druid > All.
 

Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
soc said:
Wow. You guys should get out a little bit more. It's just a joke. I'm particularly amused by Phrexial's in-depth analysis.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Summon Druid > BvC, let alone Summon Druid > All.

There is no humor on this forum.
 

Herald of Doom

Diabloii.Net Member
Speederländer said:
There is no humor on this forum.
True. Everyone here are old, uptight little men who have nothing better to do than be sour all day and nag at how bad the youth is today :teeth:

HoD
 

Speederländer

Diabloii.Net Member
Herald of Doom said:
True. Everyone here are old, uptight little men who have nothing better to do than be sour all day and nag at how bad the youth is today :teeth:

HoD
Close, actually. It's a bunch of uptight little gamers who have nothing better to do than be sour all day and bicker about what is "BM", whether whirlwind is really a melee attack, and what the best PvPer actually is in situation X.
 

Bigrob

Banned
There is no best pvp char in the game, every build has its weaknesses.

Btw, bowazon is not the best pvp char anymore. The old .09 patch zon u can now see they really suck and does not duel against other classes or other type of zons.
 
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