best pvp char

Ce Olba

Banned
wromaniaâ„¢ said:
anyway bowzons have more chance than other any chars to win any other builds. At least my faith/fort bowzon with his harmony merc run so fast and never die:), sure she cant kill every time also and is... draw
A merc dies too easily versus competent people. Also a bowazon is a glass cannon that dies _way_ too quickly. Bowazon is good at dealing dmg, bad at taking dmg.

But barbs have more votes than zons (?). Druids too have much votes, that is strange for a melee char (also a tele-elem-druid can be killed easy)
Barbs have more votes than zons because there's a class called BvCs which can beat just about any build out there, except for BvBs, and that's only if they go whirl vs whirl. If the BvC takes out Widowmaker, he can beat the BvBs.

The druids you mentioned, you named the "ele druid". And yes, they are a very strong class.

Yet again, bowazons are _weak_, as they cannot take too much damage while dealing good damage.
 

Narkotix

Diabloii.Net Member
i am inclined to disagree and defend my fav char class. as you've noticed, zons are not made for tanking or taking dmg in anyway. therefore all zons run, and get called n00bz. but a zon made properly can take out pratically any char. w/o the use of aa/mh i might add.
for ex my 1.10 zon, 195%ias, 7k+dmg, no psn.
uses 08 wf and 160/60ias lifer 120/45ias lifer cats eye, nosferatu coil, 20ias glovs, switch with lacerator for amp. easily takes out any barb within shooting distance or beyond.
so saying a zon is _weak_ is like saying a pally is _useless_ and a sorc cant _tele_ :azn:
 

vincevaler

Diabloii.Net Member
Narkotix said:
i am inclined to disagree and defend my fav char class. as you've noticed, zons are not made for tanking or taking dmg in anyway. therefore all zons run, and get called n00bz. but a zon made properly can take out pratically any char. w/o the use of aa/mh i might add.
for ex my 1.10 zon, 195%ias, 7k+dmg, no psn.
uses 08 wf and 160/60ias lifer 120/45ias lifer cats eye, nosferatu coil, 20ias glovs, switch with lacerator for amp. easily takes out any barb within shooting distance or beyond.
so saying a zon is _weak_ is like saying a pally is _useless_ and a sorc cant _tele_ :azn:
and im inclined to defend BvC char class. Sure u can run however fast you want but a good BvC will catch you with leap and tele. and if u cant take dmg then a good ww will kill you easy.

i think...
 

Ce Olba

Banned
Narkotix said:
i am inclined to disagree and defend my fav char class. as you've noticed, zons are not made for tanking or taking dmg in anyway. therefore all zons run, and get called n00bz. but a zon made properly can take out pratically any char. w/o the use of aa/mh i might add.
for ex my 1.10 zon, 195%ias, 7k+dmg, no psn.
uses 08 wf and 160/60ias lifer 120/45ias lifer cats eye, nosferatu coil, 20ias glovs, switch with lacerator for amp. easily takes out any barb within shooting distance or beyond.
so saying a zon is _weak_ is like saying a pally is _useless_ and a sorc cant _tele_ :azn:
Any good BvC will have dual Dooms on switch, which _will_ make your zon useless. Watch the video where mcm beats that zon, I think someone said that zon was the best on the Realm. Of course this is without Dooms.
 

pedu

Diabloii.Net Member
Now that youre talking about dooms, so i was wondering what the point in having 2 dooms. Isnt one enough? wouldnt grief be better for the damage, as ive understood that the doom is there only for the aura... I dont have a bvc, just intrested.

edit: Righty'o. Thanks
 

Ce Olba

Banned
pedu said:
Now that youre talking about dooms, so i was wondering what the point in having 2 dooms. Isnt one enough? wouldnt grief be better for the damage, as ive understood that the doom is there only for the aura... I dont have a bvc, just intrested.
Well, you can also use 2x Dooms as your Bo weapons, as the auras and the -resi stack. You only lose +2 skills but gain a high lvl aura and bo weapons that actually can do decent damage.And I think that it's pretty clear that pressing W is quicker than starting to switch your beast for a doom in the middle of the fight. And yes, you _could_ use 1 doom instead of Beast, but that's not needed.
 

Narkotix

Diabloii.Net Member
sry havent been on for a while. comp got hogged by my dad >.< anyways yeh a doom would pretty much help but a zon can dodge enough times, anyways with a SS and walking they have a low % to get hit combined with avoid. i know cuz i've done this before. wuz walking outside with titans and a -15req/7fhr jewel'd SS and i wuz perfectly safe. as for a doom also a zon could also swap a doom on. either way an all dex zon could use frwscs to help out. wished i wuz more rich at the time. then i could've built my own dream zon. but yes with tele and leap a BvC can kill a zon. but a zon still stands to be my fav and best for pking
and since ur all attacking me, i'm sure ur all BvC fans. and i gess you all played barbs since like .08/.09. at that time i played zons, and i preferred them a whole lot more. even now any zon could still kill a BvC if they were at a considerable distance away. say 1-2 screens shud be enough if they were smart enough like me :afro:
and to add the fact that even if a barb did have a doom, and yes im just rambling on cuz i gtg in a few mins, but a barb would have to switch, or would have already switched, and any zon like myself would be smart enough not do duel a barb with a doom. b/c its pointless. therefore, like myself, i'd run into a tp that i always have hidden in blood moor, and just go to town and come back out, and town hug like the noobie zon we all are :hide:
and yes i will still go on... a zon>barb but a zon=bvc barb in some (SOME) instances. do not bite my head off. if i still had my char, then i would gladly duel anyone to prove my point. but seeing as i quit i just like to use my knowledge for the greater good: to pwn noobz. not saying that anyone here is a noob.
and hopefully someone will provide me with a FAIR trial on BvC's vs Zons, b/c ur all BvC fans, where as im alone in my corner trying to hold everyone off and the fact that i go on every 2-3 days also is bad cuz i get back and theres like 3 ppl posting against me :cry: and determined to prove for a fact that BvC's>bowazons. also isnt doom considered bm? cuz in my books, HF=BM
shame on all of you. and for all you non=bm believers, the ones that think "as long as its fair, its fair", i'd say you're wrong. in more than one ways. and i've probly got like half of everyone at diabloii.net wanting to shoot me now :shocked: but w/e. laterz. and see u in 2-3 days or mebbe tomorow if im lucky.
Peace
added: god this is my longest post ever. but i've noticed that in the poll, bowzon is in italics(sp?). wtf? is this some form of prejudice?
 
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