Best Pubby Dueler?

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soc

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Best Pubby Dueler?

I'm wondering what the best overall pubby dueler is. Now keep in mind some factors of pubbies:

If you have anything over 1000 gold, they will steal it.

They will nk, they will not let you bo unless you teleport to Pit Level 2.

Some hide by tp's.

Most Importantly: There will be many 2v1, 3v1, 4v1, and people attacking you RIGHT after your done dueling another char, whether you have 30 life or 3000 life left.


I've had experience in pubby dueling (mainly with casters), and low life caster chars are sub-optimal at "owning" the entire pubby game (bone necro, sorc), as one hit usually requires a trip to akara.

So I'm guessing this char would be some sort of barb/pally, as their tanking ability is far greater than any other character (ok wind druid has a buttload of life too, but kill their sage (not hard), and there goes 3k life).

Any suggestions? maybe: mage pally? (hammer + foh) bvc barb?
 

PlasmaDragon

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soc said:
I'm wondering what the best overall pubby dueler is. Now keep in mind some factors of pubbies:

If you have anything over 1000 gold, they will steal it.

They will nk, they will not let you bo unless you teleport to Pit Level 2.

Some hide by tp's.

Most Importantly: There will be many 2v1, 3v1, 4v1, and people attacking you RIGHT after your done dueling another char, whether you have 30 life or 3000 life left.


I've had experience in pubby dueling (mainly with casters), and low life caster chars are sub-optimal at "owning" the entire pubby game (bone necro, sorc), as one hit usually requires a trip to akara.

So I'm guessing this char would be some sort of barb/pally, as their tanking ability is far greater than any other character (ok wind druid has a buttload of life too, but kill their sage (not hard), and there goes 3k life).

Any suggestions? maybe: mage pally? (hammer + foh) bvc barb?
bvc (a team of aa zons can be painful), windy(however u'll have trouble against any trapper that mbs), bone necro,(watch out for aa blizz, windy etc), es sorcs (absorb > you), trapper(same as sorc), pally builds(easy to stay alive but hard to catch runners) zons are good in teams only but not in 1on1 or 1 vs x.
 

eA-Zaku

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BvC. If they bring the fight to you, you'll be fine. The only thing that should be a problem is lucky/AA zons...but that's why there's houses and bushes to hide in :)
 

soc

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What about trapsins?

Also, noob question: what do bvc barbs use in their inventory? max/ar/life gc's?
 

PlasmaDragon

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soc said:
What about trapsins?

Also, noob question: what do bvc barbs use in their inventory? max/ar/life gc's?
trappers get absorbed so often it's not even funny. not to mention i find them pretty easy even with just 75% res no absorb.
 

soc

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What about godly 11k trapsins (With dual +3 trap +3 light sentry claws, 10 trap gc's with mods, and hitting the 65% fcr breakpoint)? those seem hard to absorb well, and if someone has that much on, it seems like others will kill him easily because he sacrifices too much gear.

So with the godliest gear, would a bvc barb still be more effective than the trapsin?
 

Kamahl

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dysnech hammerdin XD with no combat charms u can hit 10k hammers so u can fill ure inv with life /res sc's and get mucho life bvc barbs are great too only rly though fight u will have is summoners and dysnech hdins
 

riath

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Elcold said:
why would you have to hit the 65 fcr breakpoint, traps are ias and mind blast casts fast enough anyway.
The thing is, MB doesn't cast fast enough anyway. To achieve a good stunlock against an opponent who is trying to escape, hitting a good bp with MB becomes very important. Traps have a habbit of missing the target, and casting MB quickly is occasionaly the best/only way to keep them in fhr.
 

LorveN

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PoorCobbler said:
noob Q: wats a bvc barb? :eek:
bvc = barb vs caster.
that is, a barb specialized in killing casters like sorcs, bone necros etc.
the building style is somewhat different, since you will not be needing a shield (you cant block those spells anyway), and damage reduce as well as defense will be low-priority issues. Though, you will instead focus on other things such as resists and high life.
Generally, bvc-barbs work very nice against casters, while the sacrifice made in defense, block etc will make them have serious problems against most other melee chars.
 

blobs

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not really, necros are glass cannon. 1 blizzard 1 fireball 1 hammer 1 any decent spell off an aa ebayer, and your dead, and with all the running you be doing, 1) u wont kill anyone 2) your corpse wil probably be far away and hard to get

druid or trapper or koreazon probably the best

6k life and stuns and minion stack, or lots of no-need-brain traps, or 10k guided arrows with a might merc + tp scrolls.
 

LorveN

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soc said:
What about godly 11k trapsins...
Keep in mind we talk pubbys now. If they equip a lightsabre and have 75%res, you will barely hurt them. Add tgods or a wisp ring, and you will not hurt them at all.
Absorb is too common, and your worst enemy, unless you have lower res curse charges from some wand on weapon switch, or conviction from merc/own equipped rw polearm :p
 

Generator Of Chaos

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if you're building a char to take care of all the pubbies, no matter how "cheap" you're considered (cause let's face it, most pubbies will try to win at ANY cost) just make a WW barb (Ss + Eth BOTD Cb) or a Zeal pali (with charge) with full resists and a ton of sorc for each "element"...

I'd say WW Barb, with Tgods, Wisp, 2 Raven Frosts and Snow clash, and 2 Dwarf Stars kept on stash to use against casters...

Or a trappersin with nigma and merc with infinity...


Depends, so far the chars I see doing a best job in pubbies are zealers.. Mostly cause most barbs I see seem to be...well...let's say dumb is an understantement.... Not saying that there aren't good barbs duelers, they are just hard to find...
 

PlasmaDragon

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blobs said:
not really, necros are glass cannon. 1 blizzard 1 fireball 1 hammer 1 any decent spell off an aa ebayer, and your dead, and with all the running you be doing, 1) u wont kill anyone 2) your corpse wil probably be far away and hard to get

druid or trapper or koreazon probably the best

6k life and stuns and minion stack, or lots of no-need-brain traps, or 10k guided arrows with a might merc + tp scrolls.
I rarely die with nec in pubs unless I lag or frame lag. And most of my deaths come from teleing on people and getting tanked. If you have good connection, a fast computer and tele spam nonstop few things will ever kill you that is why necros are considered lame and cheap.
 
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