Best P v P necormancer..?

[Velocifero]

i made a very tweaked out nec on open with all the perfect gear, and best i got was probably 4k

yea sounds like BS to me, i could see if all he had was life, but maxed res, 86fhr, max block, AND 125%fcr. pshhh. :evil:
p.s. im not a hater, i just dont see the possiblity of such a build.

 

[Velocifero]

even with his own oak sage... :scratch:

 

[Mehatesmaphack]

i made a very tweaked out nec on open with all the perfect gear, and best i got was probably 4k

although i didn't really read the post i think he was talking about a pally getting 5k life. i have some friends that have life pretty close to that and it's probalby with oak from hoto i think it's doable.

 

[Mehatesmaphack]

even at that its not possible with your own BO, you have to have a barbs BO most likely, else hes just ********ting

btw, bone walls and clay golem wreck charge desyncers

aren't bone walls and prison pretty BM? they lag games up and makes people with bad connection or slow computer unable to play. personally i dislike using them and hardly ever use them even just to nk someone back.

also ya clay golem spam can lag up an entire game and make everyone's fps go to 0.

 

[fallen angel of satan]

yea palas can reach 5k life but a sefl suporting bone necro even if he is based around life really cannot. Unless the life he is talking about is including Bone armour in which case the total could be around 5k although since we are discusing hammerdins Bone armour is basically useless.

Can we just have a good necro and pala have a little duel and tell us hte results? Coz the argument is just going round in circles lol

 

[Mehatesmaphack]

yea palas can reach 5k life but a sefl suporting bone necro even if he is based around life really cannot. Unless the life he is talking about is including Bone armour in which case the total could be around 5k although since we are discusing hammerdins Bone armour is basically useless.

Can we just have a good necro and pala have a little duel and tell us hte results? Coz the argument is just going round in circles lol

if no manners ya prison, bone wall mass spam with decrep, slow golem, and golem curse lag spam and maybe even skellies and revivides ya a nec will own the pally gg then again it's not much fun.

if manners then a defensive desynch charge/tele hammerdin can be pretty hard for any necro to kill with an aggressive dueling style. if it ends up to be ibs ibh mass spam it can turn out to be pretty boring but i think with meditation pally might have advatange.

desynch is cheap but ibs is arguably cheaper so i guess it would be fair to just duel the hammerdin with the 3 bone attack spells, tele and maybe golem and no curses and bone walls and such.

 

[Mehatesmaphack]

oh by the way i like how people on the necro forum talk about strategies with a friendly atomsphere and stuff instead of bickering at each other all day about meanless stuff like on some other forums namely pvp.

 

[soulesschild]

oh by the way i like how people on the necro forum talk about strategies with a friendly atomsphere and stuff instead of bickering at each other all day about meanless stuff like on some other forums namely pvp.

bone walls IMO arent cheap UNLESS you spam them. Bone prison is cheap though. I use bone walls strategically, so that when pallys charge across, they auto target them, and stop them, preventing them from just getting on top of me and desyncing me to hell and back. Even IBS doesnt work on the good desync pallys. Pallys can whine all they want, but desync will always be a bigger killer then IBS ever will be agaisnt a desyncer vs necro

 

[Olio]

I've dueled quite a few necros with my hammerdin. Anyone who sits still is going to get a desynced hammer to the head because IBS and spear are slow compared to charge. However the 125fcr teeth necros are very hard to kill because they can tele away before you can hammer them while the teeth slowly wear you down. Then again it only takes 1-2 careless teleports to die vs quite a few spears/teeth.

Olio

 

[Mehatesmaphack]

bone walls IMO arent cheap UNLESS you spam them. Bone prison is cheap though. I use bone walls strategically, so that when pallys charge across, they auto target them, and stop them, preventing them from just getting on top of me and desyncing me to hell and back. Even IBS doesnt work on the good desync pallys. Pallys can whine all they want, but desync will always be a bigger killer then IBS ever will be agaisnt a desyncer vs necro

name lock works on desynchers some if not most o the time.

and bone walls are pretty cheap imo if you just cast even 1 bone wall in the right place when you are in a corner you will make yourself pretty much invulnerable to most melee builds that don't have teleport. and out in the open it will only take 3 to make yourself a little fortress. and a lot people won't even have a chance of getting close without dying. a tele bonemancer has 3 powerful unabsorble spells that compliment each other well and can take care any situations. even if the bonemaner uses no summons other than a golem and no other attacks other than spirit,spear and teeth and use no curses and no more than 75 res 0 absorb the only class i see that could have an advantage over them would be a bone/summon hybrid abusing the marrow bug but that's pretty much a bone mancer with 20 more skill points.

 

[soulesschild]

name lock works on desynchers some if not most o the time.

and bone walls are pretty cheap imo if you just cast even 1 bone wall in the right place when you are in a corner you will make yourself pretty much invulnerable to most melee builds that don't have teleport. and out in the open it will only take 3 to make yourself a little fortress. and a lot people won't even have a chance of getting close without dying. a tele bonemancer has 3 powerful unabsorble spells that compliment each other well and can take care any situations. even if the bonemaner uses no summons other than a golem and no other attacks other than spirit,spear and teeth and use no curses and no more than 75 res 0 absorb the only class i see that could have an advantage over them would be a bone/summon hybrid abusing the marrow bug but that's pretty much a bone mancer with 20 more skill points.

I never said i used it on all melee, just on desyncage hammerdin/chargers to stop them

 

[Mehatesmaphack]

I never said i used it on all melee, just on desyncage hammerdin/chargers to stop them

in ch duel desynch is pretty *** but with tele it's not that bad unless you dont' have a long range attack oh ya i think teeth spam all day kinda works on them or switch to something else if they get stunned.

 

[LordDrift]

If you're real rich, have a good botd/beast, lots of 3/20s, one boots switch, a shield switch, a demon limb, and maybe some fcr rings, a barb can beat virtually anything given a good connection and a bit of experience. No, gear switches doesnt mean u have to use any absorb, the only thing i carry around for switches is demon limb, stormshield, 2 fcr rings, and a crown of ages.

Necro with lots of block is the only build out there with a passable chance of beating a good barb, if you're going to bring out iron maiden and summons and stuff, barbs can use a variety of equally cheap tactics. given both players playing perfectly the barb would win anyway due to a speed advantage, better damage over time, and the ability to force tanking/ hit without getting hitted

If you're mediumly-rich, bone nec is your best bet, although being a caster you're limited by how fast you can cast and cant do much to vary the rate and angle of your attacks beyond the firing point, as well as having relatively bad health (3k is about as much you can get).

If you're poor/just wana beat necs, eshield sorc is the best bet. I have a sorc that i built using 3 sojs that beats alot of stuff in pubbies... and its not cause im good either... i suck at sorc lol... just hafta get good mana, block... and you're usually good for at least 3 hits from any attack.

o yah, we can always settle disagreements the old fashioned way...

wei :buddies: just cuhz ur barb does it! Yea i'd hafta agree a good WW Barb has a big advantage, especially if you used a caster and can name lock very good.

My necro didn't have a single pt to dex, wei killed me in 1-2 WW's.

Now im in the process of rebuilding a barb :winner:

 

[soulesschild]

wei :buddies: just cuhz ur barb does it! Yea i'd hafta agree a good WW Barb has a big advantage, especially if you used a caster and can name lock very good.

My necro didn't have a single pt to dex, wei killed me in 1-2 WW's.

Now im in the process of rebuilding a barb :winner:

bah, weis barb is no match for my blocker necro! BWAHAHAHAHAHA full block, 43 DR, 2.85k life, 125 fcr and of course the shield bug

 

[NecroManiac]

....

Now im in the process of rebuilding a barb :winner:...

you know thats what i did, and after a couple of pk games i went back to nec

Once a necro, always a necro

 

[soulesschild]

ah damn forum rollback,

anyway, my necro has 75 block with storm, 43 DR, 2.7-2.8k life, 125 cast, 4.2k spear/spirit dmg, and have a nice lil shield bug

 

[LordDrift]

i still have my necro :lol:

 

[Mehatesmaphack]

i still have my necro :lol:

no need to remake man just need to practice against good barbs. i beat wei with a 4k damage,18 dr,20 fhr,10 fps necro with no oak,no prison, no ibs, just pure offense while he kept hiding in a house and behind walls.

 

[izrafel]

ah damn forum rollback,

anyway, my necro has 75 block with storm, 43 DR, 2.7-2.8k life, 125 cast, 4.2k spear/spirit dmg, and have a nice lil shield bug

hehe block > barb

 

[DrugOfChoice]

i like my hybrid bone/poison necro...i still need some practice tho.