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best helm vs windie for bvc barb, gaze vs coa

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Darknicrofia, Jun 22, 2005.

  1. Darknicrofia

    Darknicrofia IncGamers Member

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    best helm vs windie for bvc barb, gaze vs coa

    which is better, ber'd 08 gaze or a ber ber coa with perfect dr, coa costs LOTS more and requires MUCh more str and has less dr.....but i never see anyone use 08 gaze at all vs a windie or any other melee chars, why is that? what makes coa actually good considering a bvc barb dont really need fhr
     
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    lCE IncGamers Member

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    Put it another way: what does gaze have ? ML/LL- doesnt work in pvp, bered it will have 33 DR( wont be needed anyway with dungos/enigma), MDR is well, useless, vs Ber Ber CoA which can have 31%, Plus up to 30 res all (helps vs hurricane), +1 skill (more dmg/AR/nat res/+1 tele), and fhr is just icing on the cake. Str for coa isnt a problem either, u will have enough to use it with Botd+Enigma+Beast+ anni.
     
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    Wrong, ML works in PVP, LL works on summons and Druids have health bags for summons in the form of Wolves and Bears. Life leech is very nice here.
    Having crap cold resists might suck, getting sufficient FHR might also suck using Gaze, BUT OTHERWISE it is superior to COA *FOR VS WIND DRUIDS ONLY*.
     
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    y dont' u just use arreats.
     
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    maybe because it'd be nice to reduce Tornado damage by 50%?
     
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    So u prefer 2% ll (leech is quartered in hell), to +1 more skills, more fhr and res?
    U have some strange choices.
     
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    ber'd 08 gaze if u have, then it will beat berber'd coa. Require less str, and the other stat from coa isnt really necessary when against phyiscal dmg dealer.

    With ber'd 08 gaze u can switch ur enigma to either duress or fort for more dmg, and remove that unnecessary 45frw so ur ww is better.
     
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    But wouldn't switching off the enigma will lose the teleport from enigma which makes it WAY harder to catch defensive teleporting windys?
     
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    most windy are offensive cuz wind druid cant kill u if they play TOO defensively. tornado isnt a long range skill, and hurricane dont even hurt if u have decent cold resist and one raven frost on.

    teleport is only necessary against casters like sorc or necro, sometimes zon. when i duel pally i generally switch off my enigma and use duress.

    beside, 08 gaze is cheaper than 2s coa :)
     
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    and itll poof on u.
     
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    Just curious, which realm are 08 gazes cheaper than coa's ? :-/

    HoD
     
  12. jordy666

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    on west good dr% coa's are 20+ runes iirc

    -jordy :king:
     
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    wrong, both mana leech and life leech 'work' in pvp the same.
     
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    HoD, in east u can get 08 gaze with nothing more then 2x sojs.. but coa.. goes 4 around 30-40 a good 2os one. (27-30 resists 14-15 dr%)
     
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    sry, it's permed from last patch. Never going to happen! :D
     

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