Best HCL PVPer I'm going to make a new Hardcore Ladder PVPer. On the HCL, you basically have to deal with Hammerdins, Light/Fire sorcs, Chargadins, BvCs, BvBs and Windies. A lot of BM happens in HCL. Essentially, there are no manners: in a life or death situation, you can use whatever you have. Pride/Infinity mercs, Juvs, lifetap, etc... Which is why 1 hit knockouts, or close to 1 hit builds, reign supreme. Sorcs can 1 or 2 hit a lot of people who don't have the proper resists/absorb. Hammerdins hitting 13 - 15K damage can one-shot barbs. While Windies are usually TPPK, a few still PVP fairly well when they reach 5 - 6K nados. Chargadins, with their max block and huge defence rush up one shotting characters with 20 - 25K one hand damage. BvCs whirl to death most casters. What character build could take on all these? I initially thought necro, but a necro isn't going to one shot anyone, and they require very good gear to save resists and get +skills. Windies usually can't put up the damage either. I don't want to make a sorc that someone can just change their rings and absorb. And boy do I want to be able to kill Hammerdins...there are SO MANY of them. I narrowed it down to BvA or Chargadin. But, I'm not sure BvAs (or WW barbs in general) can kill someone fast enough that they aren't going to drink a juv, or save exit, or teleport away and drink. Maybe necros/sorcs/windies. Not only that, but how can a Barb come close to beating a Hammerdin? Those hammers will do around 2K damage each, which means a couple flying out at rediculous speeds will put an end to almost all chars but big barbs. Can Barbs beat hammerdins? Exile Smiters? Chargadins? My second thought was a chargadin. Huge damage, AR, defense. Lock onto somebody, and hold down that mouse button waiting for a desynch or little lag or not enough FCR/FHR and they are gone. But can they beat a good WW Barb? What about an exile lifetap smiter? And now another option I'm thinking of it exile smiter. They seem to be able to beat barbs and chargadins, but how could they ever beat a sorc? I assume tele-smite, no idea how well that works. Anyways, these are my ideas. I'm sure you guys have better ideas, or maybe tactics to allow BvA to beat Hammerdin, or smiter/chargadin. Any help is appreciated.