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Best dueler to beat a ww barb..

Discussion in 'Hardcore' started by Still-Xey-Lover, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. Still-Xey-Lover

    Still-Xey-Lover IncGamers Member

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    Best dueler to beat a ww barb..

    Whats the best dueler to beat a ww barb level 35-39?
     
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    PhatTrumpet IncGamers Member

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    Bone necro?
     
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    Still-Xey-Lover IncGamers Member

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    Ah yes, bone nec because of decrep? or bonewall + iron maiden?
     
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    any level restriction? otherwise i'd say low fpa zerker or GA zon.. however, i havent really played since the beginning of 1.10 so im not sure what they changed.. i know they fixed the pierce bug, but GA still seem viable..

    BC or BW necro with a mad high.. hmm.. what was the name of that skill again.. bone spirit or something? might do the trick..

    Edit, BC is useless i guess, if you can still WW through it, but IM and BW should work i suppose..

    //EvilS
     
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    Still-Xey-Lover IncGamers Member

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    Yah, note the level 35-39 ww barb part :p
     
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    evils :shocked:

    Yes, the Decrep, and the respectable damage at extreme range. Problem is even with that decent damage it's pretty tough to take down any decent Barb, unless he's too stupid to do short whirls or too stupid to chug potions. Basically, if the Barb knows what he's doing, there's not much you can do.

    The two chars with the best chance of KOing the Barb are probably Charger and 2-hand Fury... or another WW Barb. Charger would need uber damage and timing; Fury would need uber damage, life, and FHR; WW Barb would just need uber-er gear than the other Barb.
     
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    Decrep, clay golem, bone prison = dead barb.
     
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    Matt IncGamers Site Pal

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    I'd go with either a good caster (probably a sorceress or bone necro) or a Fury wolf. I'm biased on the fury wolf, because I made a pretty nasty level 37 one... I'm quite sure he wouldnt have been killed by any sort of WW barb, even as a 2her, having about 3k life, not to mention the whole shifting to human at 1life thing anyways.

    Factor in obscene damage+deadly strike, and having enough dual mod jewels to hit a respectable FHR breakpoint, and my money would be on the wolf. Basically I just like to think my fury wolf could have taken any similar level WWer, their numbers are pretty impressive when enough wealth is invested in them, and they're built right.

    A caster should easily beat the barb, but I doubt very much they've got the punch needed to actually get the ear.

    -Matt
     
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    Cold or Fire sorcs against dumb barbs who dont stack resists.
    Necro and Matt's wolf would probably both work.
     
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    HelzCaretaker IncGamers Member

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    I'll put my ww barb against a druid anyday :grin:

    For pre lvl 38 (shaft) another ww barb/bone nec/good fury druid/wind druid/iceblast-blizz sorc/hammerdin would win but not kill.

    For lvl 38-39 I'd go with a mage char b/c shaft is too hard to break thru with a physical dmg char for a decent kill.
     
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    Matt IncGamers Site Pal

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    If only he wasnt long dead. I'd like to eventually rebuild him next season, he was pretty darn fun, and didnt ever lose a duel to anyone even close in level. Then I had to get cocky and pick fights with duelers 10+ levels above me... :rolleyes:
     
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    HelzCaretaker IncGamers Member

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    my 37 does 3k ww and has 3k life, he hits fooking hard!!!
     
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    Still-Xey-Lover IncGamers Member

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    What did your drood use matt? :D
     
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    Matt IncGamers Site Pal

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    Eth upped Shael'd Steeldriver
    ED/-req jeweled Guilliames
    90%ED/14%fhr/27AR/22%Fire Resist jeweled Artisans light plate of the whale
    Waterwalks
    Bloodfists
    String
    Angelic combo
    Mostly dual mod charms, Sharps of str or life, Smalls of sustinence, a couple with dmg mods as well, and some sharp/life larges.

    Merc had an eth honor partizan, 45max mask and 60 max armor with might aura. I believe I went mostly Oak with a point in HoW for some duels.
     
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    the gear for most builds are more or less the same, charms bring up the big differences.


    Anyways, as kime already mentioned pre 38 and post 38 are significantly diffferent.

    A blizz/ib sorc is quite effective because according to the gear most barbs will not have very good cold res.

    I wouldn't really recommend a 2 hand charger. You have to be really stupid not to click ww when a pally comes charging at you.

    A beefy 1 hand charger at 39 might do some dmg against a 2 hand ww barb if built very well.

    In the end its very much like hld, best thing to fight against a barb...is another barb.
     
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    Agreed, a good Eth headstriker charger could very well get the kill.
     
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    Headstriker charger, hands down.

    Outside of that...maybe a crushingblow/fury wolf if it's a pre-38. After 38 the shaft makes it retarded to use physical damage mods like CB.

    A level 34 crushing blow wolf would probably own one quite solidly...though at 34 unless they have some very nasty 1handed wepons you know they're going to be a driver whirler.

    Guilmes face
    Angelics
    Water walks
    Lance guard
    Damage armour
    Bloodfists
    String of ears
    Cold steel eye + dmg/ias
    Goblin toes

    If he's a 1hander he might put up a fight, but outside of that I doubt it. 1handers would need to have some very beefy wepons (think Eth fer zwieh of damage mod with dual ias/ed jewels) to be able to hurt your life bulb.

    Crit + Crush = 1/5th life removed
    2500 Life, 500 auto removed + what ever damage you do that fury. In effect it severely lowers their ability to down a pot and have full health again. Once you lower them down to 50%, this criticrush is marginalized to a mere 250 pvp damage

    If he's using a driver to whirl, he's as good as gone (though your range sucks as bad as his does)

    Getting the kill would be hard considering the barb's life/defense/the fact he'll probably chicken, though I'd think headstriker has the best chance of it.
     
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    Matt whyd you use ED >.<
     
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    Well let's see...

    At that level, with that setup, a 30%ed jewel would net you at least 100 average damage (more in the range of 120-140 depending on how good the maul is and what kind of charms you have).

    At that level, with that setup, a +15max jewel would net you about 70 max damage.

    It's not exactly rocket science.
     

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