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Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

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  1. EatSleepDiablo

    EatSleepDiablo IncGamers Member

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    Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    Matriarch PhysFury, Level 96 Amazon

    Twist on a standard build made viable by Infinity. My WSK runner:

    STATS
    Strength: 20 (176)
    Dexterity: 342 (382)
    Vitality: 193 (246)
    Energy: 15

    Base Physical Damage (with Might Merc):
    Jab 1121-1951 (w/demon limb/charms)
    Throw 1223-2189 (w/demon limb/charms)

    +Primary Attacks:
    Charged Strike 1-3213
    Lightning Fury 1-1860

    Life: 1050 (1681 with BO)
    Mana: 358 (623 with BO)

    AR: 14,184 (from LCS) w/demon limb
    MF: 333
    IAS: 55
    FRW: 100
    FHR: 55
    ML: 12
    LL: 18
    Resistances: 68/49/82/85

    SKILLS
    Javelin and Spear (w/o BO):
    Charged Strike 20 (32)
    Lightning Fury 20 (35)
    Lightning Strike 20 (35)
    5 in prerequisites

    Passive and Magic (w/o BO):
    Critical Strike 9 (19)
    Penetrate 20 (30)
    Pierce 13 (23; 87%)

    ITEMS
    Head: Andariel’s Visage (Ruby Jewel (29%) of Fervor)
    Amulet: Crafted
    Weapon: Titan’s (upped)
    Shield: Spirit
    Switch: Call to Arms / Spirit
    Chest: Enigma BP (first saw this with Strijdje’s Windy and thought it crazy. It is not.)
    Gloves: Laying of Hands
    Ring 1: Raven Frost
    Ring 2: Rare
    Belt: Thundergod’s Vigor
    Boots: War Travs (50MF)

    Backpack: Gheed’s, 2 Shimmering GC (14,15) and SCs with various mods.

    Chest: Demon Limb, second set of upp’d Titan’s (avoids need to repair).

    MERC
    Act 2 Offensive
    Helm: Andy’s (Ruby Jewel (27%) of Fervor)
    Weapon: Infinity eGPA
    Armor: Fortitude eAP

    THE SKINNY
    I have run WSK with a variety of popular builds but each have their shortcomings for me:
    • Lite Sorc—must focus on +skills (often at cost of MF), park/rely on merc for unbreakables; fragile
    • Pure LF—leach problems with low AR, park/rely on merc for unbreakables
    • Fishyzon—love FA but it’s a mana hog, bow side weakens CS too much, same issues with leaching.

    What I wanted to accomplish with this build:
    • Have a back-up attack that eliminates weapon exchanges so CtA could stay on switch
    • No parking LIs
    • Max block with monarch
    • Reliably leach
    • High FRW and IAS
    • Carry high levels of MF without sacrificing too much

    By bolstering the physical attack, my secondary actually enhances the primary. In effect, aside from 3 prerequisites, all remaining skill points are employed in the primary attack. Not many builds can claim that. Furthermore, Charged Strike, while not as potent as a PureLF, remains viable with Titans (again no exchanging unless desired).

    Witch bosses are the only ones that sometimes spawn PI/LI, but I do enough elemental damage with demon limb and charms to dispense them (with merc’s help).

    I have experimented with Highlords, Gores, Griff’s (with perfect facet), +2/20 gloves, but my current setup seems to run best while maintaining a high lvl of MF. Andy’s probably appears an odd choice, but the +2 skills, 10LL, PR, IAS (35 w/jewel), and +str are keys to the build. Also eliminates the nuisance of poison from the second wave.

    I plan to take her to 99 (only three more levels right?). I am charting all S/U drops and will report my findings every 1,000 runs (at 425 now).
     
  2. NagisaFurukawa

    NagisaFurukawa IncGamers Member

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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    Ridiculous amulet. :crazyeyes:

    Congrats on an awesome character. Don't you think Penetrate/Demon Limb is overkill though? Conviction is giving you plenty of AR as it is.

    In any case, good luck with 99. :)

    Is 'Enigma' really the best choice here? I'd like your opinion. :)
     
  3. frozzzen

    frozzzen IncGamers Member

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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    Great concept of maxblock with Spirit. I really like this character.
    And that amulet...pure hoax (drolling).
    And good luck on your quest for 99.
    And... are you playing diablo on 640 x 480? o_O

    Only sugestion would be to get 10fcr ring with similar mods for next fcr breakpoint (and to increase your resolution to 800 x 600 :p)
    10/10 for stylepoints :thumbup:
     
  4. EatSleepDiablo

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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    Re: AR. From what I've read, 14K is not really overkill. It is one of the reasons NF built his zon they way he did:

    "Issue: Attack Rating & Leech. One problem that we’ll be having is hitting with the physical component of our skills. Bowskill AR doesn’t work for all I know and LF and CS don’t give any AR at all. Even with extra points in penetrate we wouldn’t hit much. Therefore I prefer to not rely on mana leech to keep my character going. Instead, I try for mana per kill items, a decently sized mana pool and the blue potions that drop in pretty much every fight. Just saying this here because it doesn’t really fit anywhere else."

    I realize he wasnt benefiting from the -D% of Conviction, but I tested this gear setup on my PureLF (although with minimal investment on the Passive side), and she struggled mightily to do any damage to LIs (and leach as consistently). I'll do a little testing tonight sans Demon Limb and report back.

    Re: Enigma. Ironically, teleport is the only wasted mod. +2 skills, FRW, DR, Life, Str bonus (no points invested to use Monarch), and MF are all well known, but even the 15% damage to mana keeps CS going with unleachables/Baal.

    That amulet is my "failed" attempt at a +2/20 sorc amulet. I used up about about four months of gems and my bank account for that endeavor. +1/18+- was the best result on the sorc side, but not all of the effort was wasted as you can see.

    Froz. This gal is a runner. With my current map, I spend up to 2 mins on 6-12 boss packs getting to the throne room. I must say, drops have been consistent, although not always consistently good, but I just had my fourth TC87 drop (shadow dancers) so I have no plans to focus strictly on minions and Baal yet [about 10 TC87s total in 425+- runs].

    No idea on my screen resolution. Will tinker with it tonight.


     
  5. NagisaFurukawa

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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    With just 1 point in Penetrate (all other things equal), you would still have somewhere around 10k AR, right? (That would be approximately equal to the effect of losing Demon Limb, so testing it that way would indeed be a good idea.) I can't imagine that you would get more than 5-10% greater CTH with the extra AR from Penentrate, so I was just thinking the points might be better off boosting your lightning. Just my thoughts though. You've gotten to level 96, so obviously things have been working. :wink:

    Regarding your pure LF, did she also have high dexterity, a Might mercenary, Laying of Hands, etc.? That could be the difference.

    Thanks for your take on 'Enigma'. Making up for resistances seems tough, but there are certainly many advantages...

    Once again, congrats, and thanks for entertaining my pestering. :badteeth:
     
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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    Yes, Really awesome stuff!

    Grats

    M


     
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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    Very nice Zon I must say.
     
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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    +1 to very nice Amazon. *whistles*
     
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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    Great stuff. Congrats on the Mat :thumbsup:
     
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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    After testing, it is around 10K (9.6K), but the drop off is noticeable. I respected this morning and split the difference, pumping Penetrate to 10 and using those skill points with LB.

    Lightning side is stronger of course (+104 LF; +396 CS), but I am down 453-515 damage on the physical side all things being equal (isnt respecting grand?).

    Long story short, it takes a bit longer with unbreakables, but with CS gains, Baal is going down a bit faster. Needs a bit more testing, but I'll keep the change for now.

    Thank you for your contributions Nagisa.

    Froz, my resolution is 1024 x768. Not ideal?


     
  11. NagisaFurukawa

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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    As far as your lost physical damage, did your mercenary have Might active in your most recent screenshot?

    In any case, thanks for making the change and sharing your results. It'll be very useful information for me (and hopefully yourself and others!) down the line.
     
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    Re: Belated Mat Thread: FuryPhys

    UPDATE:

    I have been tinkering with the build, pushing her decidedly to the lightning side. She is still not optimized, but I have 3,000+- WSK runs to go to get her right (see here for updates).


    STATS
    Strength: 34 (177)
    Dexterity: 285 (325; 74% block)
    Vitality: 246 (288)
    Energy: 15

    Base Physical Damage (with Might Merc):
    Jab 954-1704 (w/demon limb/charms)
    Throw 1047-1936 (w/demon limb/charms)

    +Primary Attacks:
    Charged Strike 1-6066
    Lightning Fury 1-2538

    Life: 1180 (1953 with BO)
    Mana: 464 (750 with BO)

    AR: 8,651 (from LCS) w/demon limb
    MF: 350
    IAS: 55
    FRW: 95
    FHR: 55
    ML: 7
    LL: 17
    Resistances: 85/31/92/77

    SKILLS
    Javelin and Spear (w/o BO):
    Charged Strike 20 (33)
    Power Strike 20 (33)
    Lighting Bolt 20 (33)
    Lightning Fury 20 (36)
    Lightning Strike 20 (36)
    3 in prerequisites

    Passive and Magic (w/o BO):
    Critical Strike 1 (12)
    Penetrate 1 (12)
    Pierce 4 (15; 80%)

    ITEMS
    Head: Andariel’s Visage (Ruby Jewel (29%) of Fervor)
    Amulet: Crafted
    Weapon: Titan’s (upped)
    Shield: Spirit
    Switch: Call to Arms / Spirit
    Chest: Enigma BP
    Gloves: Laying of Hands
    Ring 1: Raven Frost
    Ring 2: SoJ
    Belt: Thundergod’s Vigor
    Boots: Rare (20FRW, 32LR, 33FR, 25MF)

    Backpack: Gheed’s, 1 Shimmering GC (14) and SCs with various mods.

    Chest: Demon Limb, two sets of upp’d Titan’s (avoids need to repair).

    MERC
    Act 2 Offensive
    Helm: Andy’s (Ruby Jewel (27%) of Fervor)
    Weapon: Infinity eGPA
    Armor: Fortitude eAP
     

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