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Barb FCR Break points plz?

Discussion in 'Hardcore' started by TEB-Bird, Mar 22, 2004.

  1. TEB-Bird

    TEB-Bird IncGamers Member

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    Barb FCR Break points plz?

    What are the Break points on a Barbs Faster Cast Rate?

    Ty Bird
     
  2. Djinni

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    I seem to remember fcr break points are the same across all classes, so you will cast exactly the same speed as a sorc in identical gear.

    I can't remember the fcr breakpoints off the top of my head, but just a little poking around in some of the sorc build guides will probably turn them up within a few minutes :)
     
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    CoonerTheRed IncGamers Member

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    now that isn't a question you get every day :D
     
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    PhatTrumpet IncGamers Member

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    Well first of all, why would you ask this question in this forum? It has nothing to do with hardcore and only the most serious Barb guru would know the answer (I bet Seph doesn't know :lol: ).

    And Djinni, every character class has a different set of fast cast breakpoints, as with faster hit recovery and faster block rate. For instance, Sorc's have higher breakpoints at around 63% and 105% while Pally's have them around 50% and 75% (these may not be exact, just trying to give an example).
     
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    Djinni IncGamers Member

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    Are you certain about that phat?

    I know attack speed & block rates have their breakpoints for different classes but i seem to remember reading a barb warcry guide that said something about cast rates being the same across the board. Maybe I'm mistaken, i'll have to recheck my info sometime as I have a cry barb who might not be as effective as he could be
     
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    Same as sorc.
    105 (110 so no double tele) is like 8 frames I know.
     
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    yes, barb casting rates is the same as a sorcs I believe. at least the first breakpoint is I think
     
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    with some searching I found some SC PvP Singer Barb Thread that said 63, 105, 200
     
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    Baranor IncGamers Member

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    105 is pretty doable. in Lod you'd go with que hagan's and then dual spikes... hey, now you have 150% res all aint that nice ^_^. I have a singer barbie out somewhere in act 2 or 3 NM IIRC.
     
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    Birds doing one in Classic and we discussed it a bit last night. Couple Shards and a FCR Ammy is about his only way to go.
     
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    PhatTrumpet IncGamers Member

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    So here we go.
    Code:
    Sorceress Fast Cast (m0nk's CL/FO guide):
    0%   - 13 frames
    9%   - 12 frames
    20%  - 11 frames
    37%  - 10 frames
    63%  - 9 frames
    105% - 8 frames
    200% - 7 frames (impossible)
    
    Assasin Fast Cast (1.09 Assasin FAQ):
    0%   - 16 frames
    8%   - 15 frames
    16%  - 14 frames
    27%  - 13 frames
    42%  - 12 frames
    65%  - 11 frames
    102% - 10 frames
    174% - 9 frames
    
    Paladin Fast Cast (1.10 Paladin FAQ):
    0%   - 15 frames
    9%   - 14 frames
    18%  - 13 frames
    30%  - 12 frames
    48%  - 11 frames
    75%  - 10 frames
    125% - 9 frames
    
    Druid Fast Cast (fenris' Wind Druid guide):
    0%   - 18 frames
    4%   - 17 frames
    10%  - 16 frames
    19%  - 15 frames
    30%  - 14 frames
    46%  - 13 frames
    68%  - 12 frames
    99%  - 11 frames
    163% - 10 frames
    
    Necro Fast Cast (Necromancer Encyclopedia):
    0%   - 15 frames
    9%   - 14 frames
    18%  - 13 frames
    30%  - 12 frames
    48%  - 11 frames
    75%  - 10 frames
    125% - 9 frames
    Now I didn't try all that hard, but I couldn't find tables for Barb or Zon. As you can see they are all different to some degree, especially the frames per cast. I'd say the fact that Barb and Sorc have the same upper breakpoints is more of a coincidence than anything else.
     
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    Aye. Dual shards, FC ammy and maybe heavenly garb to go along would do the trick. Don't forget the Magefists, as they offer some nice extra regen, or if you think you spam fast enough frosties.


    Bird, mucho grande luck with a Singer in classic. There should be a guide in the strat compendium about the singer, in the old 1.09 version, that is based on classic instead of LoD. Try and look it up as he details some more usefull items (though I think you know enough of those ;) )
     
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    The breakpoints are definately the same for barb and sorc. I'd link you to a site that has the breakpoints for all classes. Both FHR, FBR and FCR. I don't think I'm allowed to, though.
     

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