Barb def with Conc. Well I posted this question in the guide, but since the database seems fried as of late here it goes again. My def on my barb while concentrate is activated is a little over 13k, he uses Arreats Durial Shell GoreRiders Highlords ammy Laying of Hands String Ravenfrost Manald Ring CresentMoon or Doombringer, (I keep switching trying to see whats best) Gerkes Pavise So how do I reach these numbers of 20k def or more like i hear so many do? I've maxxed all that need maxing, and have followed the guide pretty much to the letter, but I still cant seem to get past 14k to save my life! So hows it done? Do you see anything in my items that might need changing, without costing a fortune to get? Any advice would be helpful...but none the less the barb is doing great in hell, as far as a unreal tank goes..so no complaining there..I would just like to get the awesome def those around me have..thx.