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Stimm

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I read it and kept waiting for a " just kidding" to show up. Weather the author mentioned the dupes as a joke or not I dont know but the replies to thread all thought it was great.
 

Herald of Doom

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Well, fact is that if you say "use fcr rings with stats and resist" 99% will have to use dupes because legit rings with those stats are superexpensive. Oh, and the responses aren't positive, they're more like "can"t be bothered to say my anti-dupe speech again".

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LuckyDwarf

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Sadly enough, some of the softcore forums here are like that, which is why I only post here.

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Aerath

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Thread's been removed...

Anyone remember the original poster to check his account status ?
 

Herald of Doom

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Aerath said:
Thread's been removed...

Anyone remember the original poster to check his account status ?
That would be Blobs. He has one of the best barbs on west or east, can't remember which realm ;)

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Stimm

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Herald of Doom said:
That would be Blobs. He has one of the best barbs on west or east, can't remember which realm ;)

HoD
Anyone who wildly supports and uses dupes has no business putting "best" next to thier character
 

Herald of Doom

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Stimm said:
Anyone who wildly supports and uses dupes has no business putting "best" next to thier character
:lol:

So anyone who uses highrunes can't be the best? I mean, really, people always rant about dupes, but everyone uses highrunes without feeling bad. I don't use dupes or maphack, but I do use highrunes, so I'm just as guilty as he is. I can understand why you are against dupes, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a very good dueller. He could sell some of his others chars equip, or just offer some 32020s and he can have a legit equivalent that's not as good, for 5 times the price. And yes, he was wrong in promoting the dupes, that was rather silly of him, because iirc it's against the rules to do that ^_^

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hulla-hop

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Herald of Doom said:
:lol:

So anyone who uses highrunes can't be the best? I mean, really, people always rant about dupes, but everyone uses highrunes without feeling bad. I don't use dupes or maphack, but I do use highrunes, so I'm just as guilty as he is. I can understand why you are against dupes, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a very good dueller. He could sell some of his others chars equip, or just offer some 32020s and he can have a legit equivalent that's not as good, for 5 times the price. And yes, he was wrong in promoting the dupes, that was rather silly of him, because iirc it's against the rules to do that ^_^

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what he said...
 

Stimm

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I use high runes true , but i also found them personally. As for the rest of it , real skill isnt tied with gear. Ive seen some true duelers use less then optimal gear and be greatly succesful. I realize that softcore is just another term for open bnet now but that doesnt any more acceptable
 

Matt

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Herald of Doom said:
:lol:

So anyone who uses highrunes can't be the best? I mean, really, people always rant about dupes, but everyone uses highrunes without feeling bad. I don't use dupes or maphack, but I do use highrunes, so I'm just as guilty as he is.
How high are high runes? I've never owned any rune higher than Ohm, which I got for a perfect Maras I found, the guy I traded from is someone I trust, and he told me he found it himself, not likely a dupe.

I've also had guls and ists, and everything below that, however, they have almost all been from my hellforges or friends hellforges. The likelyhood of runes gul and lower being duped is not all that high, since they are all findable from the hell hellforge. (from regular traders, if someone has 45 ists for trade, its likely they're duped, but when someone has one ist for trade, chances are its not a dupe...)

Herald of Doom said:
I can understand why you are against dupes, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a very good dueller. He could sell some of his others chars equip, or just offer some 32020s and he can have a legit equivalent that's not as good, for 5 times the price.
He can be a good dueler without dupes. I'm a good dueler, I've high level hardcore ears, almost killed a level 98, amonchick the other day, I've got a level 70 dueler/chickener ear in my stash, all with a mediocrely built character who is a dueler as a secondary position, his main job is mfing and hell rushing. Hardly an elite dueler.

So he could sell his duped gear, and end up with something not as good, and more expensive. Correct me if I'm missing something, but isint that kind of whats wrong with dupes? (yes thats a rhetorical question...) They allow you to make better, cheaper characters, thereby giving you an advantage over legit players, who chose not to use dupes. Saying that dupes allow you to make stronger and cheaper characters, which most people couldnt otherwise make without dupes, is HARDLY a justification for using them.

-Matt
 

hulla-hop

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Matt said:
How high are high runes? I've never owned any rune higher than Ohm, which I got for a perfect Maras I found, the guy I traded from is someone I trust, and he told me he found it himself, not likely a dupe.

I've also had guls and ists, and everything below that, however, they have almost all been from my hellforges or friends hellforges. The likelyhood of runes gul and lower being duped is not all that high, since they are all findable from the hell hellforge. (from regular traders, if someone has 45 ists for trade, its likely they're duped, but when someone has one ist for trade, chances are its not a dupe...)



He can be a good dueler without dupes. I'm a good dueler, I've high level hardcore ears, almost killed a level 98, amonchick the other day, I've got a level 70 dueler/chickener ear in my stash, all with a mediocrely built character who is a dueler as a secondary position, his main job is mfing and hell rushing. Hardly an elite dueler.

So he could sell his duped gear, and end up with something not as good, and more expensive. Correct me if I'm missing something, but isint that kind of whats wrong with dupes? (yes thats a rhetorical question...) They allow you to make better, cheaper characters, thereby giving you an advantage over legit players, who chose not to use dupes. Saying that dupes allow you to make stronger and cheaper characters, which most people couldnt otherwise make without dupes, is HARDLY a justification for using them.

-Matt
well, i think what herald wanted to say is that the dude in question would still be a tp-notch dueller if it werent for the dupes....
 

Herald of Doom

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hulla-hop said:
well, i think what herald wanted to say is that the dude in question would still be a tp-notch dueller if it werent for the dupes....
Yeah, kind of. :p
But anyway, dupes actually make it easier for poorer people to make an effective character. If dupes didn't exist (which ofcourse they shouldn't, but unfortunately they do) only the richest people could make a very good dueller. I mean, everyone knows I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Hulla, but he still beat the crap out of my barb because he had better items ( and you know that's the truth :thumbsup: ). Actually, that's one of the reasons I went to HCL, in the hopes of avoiding those duped items. ofcourse, now I'm stuck with chicken.. :(

EDIT: I just noticed, Hal made the thread visible again, it's been adjusted ;)

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hulla-hop

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Herald of Doom said:
Yeah, kind of. :p
But anyway, dupes actually make it easier for poorer people to make an effective character. If dupes didn't exist (which ofcourse they shouldn't, but unfortunately they do) only the richest people could make a very good dueller. I mean, everyone knows I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Hulla, but he still beat the crap out of my barb because he had better items ( and you know that's the truth :thumbsup: ). Actually, that's one of the reasons I went to HCL, in the hopes of avoiding those duped items. ofcourse, now I'm stuck with chicken.. :(

EDIT: I just noticed, Hal made the thread visible again, it's been adjusted ;)

HoD
haha, you bastard, and i dont even use dupezors!
 

Aerath

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Herald of Doom said:
Actually, that's one of the reasons I went to HCL, in the hopes of avoiding those duped items. ofcourse, now I'm stuck with chicken.. :(
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You ? Or people you duel ?
 

Herald of Doom

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Aerath said:
You ? Or people you duel ?
People who try to pk me and who run straight into my old traps :p
Just 1.5 hours ago I was in a game "kill Diablo", and this lvl 50 pala enters (i was 55 at the time iirc). He hostiles my party, which was me and some wussy sorc, who chickens out as soon as he hostiles us. I wasn't even doing anything at the time, I was just whispering to a friend, so when he hostiles I don't exit immediately. He went through the wp looking for me, and he probably had mh so he came running straight to me, but didnt notice the 5 traps i laid (or assumed it was one, I just click my mouse on one place so it looks like on trap if you dont pay attention). As he comes running towards me, all my traps shoot and I assume they all got lucky shots cuz suddenly *poof* away is the pk'er :clap:

PS: 1-2900 light sentry >> stupid wannabe pk'er :p

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