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Babas for MF?

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by Trionth, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. Trionth

    Trionth Diabloii.Net Member

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    Babas for MF?

    Does the Goldfind interfere with MF? I've had a few people tell me Babas are bad for MF because of the GF, and figured the statistics forum would be the best place to ask.

    I'm going for MF, and would socket the babas with 2x Ist each. This will give me close to the same MF as two 6x Ist Weapons (at level ~85, its close enough for me, at level 99 its 1% MF less then 6x Ist, IIRC)

    Thanks!
     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    GF and MF are completely independent from each other. You Ali Babas will work fine.

    Ist runes add 30% MF on weapons (and 25% everywhere else), so a 6 Ist weapon will add 180% while Ali Babas with two Ists have a maximum of 159%. If you don't know what to do with your wealth, 6 Ist weapons will do better, but if you are already that rich, MFing probably doesn't make much sense anyway.

    Also, MF is subject to diminishing returns with respect to rare, set and unique items, so from a certain point on, adding further MFe won't improve the chances anymore. It's replaced by the value MF*X/(MF+X) with X=600 for rares, 500 for set items and 250 for uniques. Whatever amount of MF you pass into that formula, it can't produce a result which is greater than X, but the higher, the nearer it comes. It converges to that amount, mathematically spoken.
     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    So... Over 350% MF is overkill? Thats nice to know. Thanks Krischan!
     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    I had around 330% mf and I still was not having too much luck. But at times I was getting good stuff. I hear more mf is better if you have good killing speed.


     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    Yeah, never hurt to have more so long as you kill fine, eh?
     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    What kind of barb build are you going to mf with? Singer?
     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    Thinking WW. With ebotd, beast, enigma, War travs, chancies, nagels, doubl up'd goldwrap, up'd babas on switch for horking (or killing easy monsters) I'm almost done getting all the gear.

    Singer is probably better for MF, but WW just looks fun.

    If you've got some suggestions, I would like to hear them (this isn't the forum for that though, check here)


     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    The more, the better, but 350% is a good amount for uniques.

    If you are mainly after set items or rares, you can go for higher values, in particular because most of the good rares can drop rather early.



     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    Seems like Uniques are the place to make the money. (plus I've got quite a few I'm looking for) Guess I'll see where I'm at. Might upgrade to dual 6x ist beserker axes eventually (zerkers because of axe mastery for botd and beast)
     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    Sounds like fun. I played zerk mf barb in the old days with dual alibaba on the switch. Good luck with the build.
     
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    Re: Babas for MF?

    Thank you!
     

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