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Avenger, Did I make the best one possible?

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by joop, Feb 4, 2004.

  1. joop

    joop IncGamers Member

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    Avenger, Did I make the best one possible?

    Am I creating the best possible avenger or not?

    That is my question for you all.

    Here are some stats

    Lvl 86

    Str 230 Fire res. 95
    Dex 116 Lighting res. 94
    Vit 241 Cold res. 94
    Energy 24 Poison res. 90

    Main skills

    Vengence 20
    Conviction 20
    Holy shield 20
    Res. skills 12 all

    Equipment

    Helm Crown of Ages / um 1/44/10
    Armor GA / um
    Weapon Perfect Nord’s
    Shield SS / um
    Gloves Laying of hands 20% IAS / 50% fire res.
    Boots Sandstorm trek 63% poison res.
    Belt Disciple belt
    Amulet Cresent moom Dual leech
    Rings Res. Rings

    This list leads to the following conclusions:

    *When I reach lvl 90 I’ll have max resistance to all.
    *SS and CoA give me a total DR % of 45%. Very nice indeed.
    *Holy shield boosts my defense to about 10 k.
    *My character has about 1050 hitpoints (241 vita points and some charms). This figure will only grow as I progress.

    Of course I’m aware that I can make some improvements:

    *I have all runes to create the runeword BotD. All I need now is an ethereal berserker axe. (Damn, they are hard to find or trade)

    *When I’m equiped with a BotD axe, I need to add to my AR. This will be done by 2 Ravenfrost rings, which I already have in store.

    *When the above mentioned things are done all that’s left for me is to add some resistance charms to get back to 95/95/95/90.

    Now it’s up to you! Where are my chances for further improvement or do you think I’m creating the perfect Avenger?

    On final question: What can I do to protect myself against this very anoying amp dam curse?
     
  2. greenfire10

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    Kill the damn beast that trows it on you real quick. :D

    oh .. and... what charms are you going to use ?

    i may suggest not using some UM's in soccets, but use ed/ias or ed/max juwels there, and make up for the resist with charms.

    also you say you have almoost 95 resist to all, but where do you get the +% to max resist x bonus ? did i overlook anything ?
     
  3. Andrew

    Andrew IncGamers Member

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    Why nords? I'm sure you can afford something better?
     
  4. joop

    joop IncGamers Member

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    The 95 res. Come from points you put into the resistance skill (tab defensive aura's). 2 Points into fire res. = 1 point to max. fire resist. This works also for cold and lightning, but not for poison.

    Im working on a botd zerker axe. I have all runes, but I still need the axe. It's hard to get.
     
  5. Amiral

    Amiral IncGamers Member

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    you would have to use at least 119 skill points with that setup, or 124 if you want vigor and remedemption... you have on lvl 99 only 110 skill points to distribute including all skills Q's.
     
  6. joop

    joop IncGamers Member

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    Correct me if im wrong but in my calculation i would use 101 skill points

    Holyshield 20
    Vengence 20
    Conviction 20
    Res skills 30

    And 11 points just to get to the skills i need.

    This means that there is still space left for other skills like vigor or repemption.
     
  7. goldenfrog

    goldenfrog IncGamers Member

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    thats 36 for all res
     
  8. gzvernon

    gzvernon IncGamers Member

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    you could put those points in defiance for the synergy to Holy Shield.
     
  9. Shadoway

    Shadoway IncGamers Member

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    Stormshield and Guardian Angel for an avenger is major mistake. People use GA just to get +max resist, which is not needed by an avenger.

    I would build an avenger this way:

    20 Resist Fire
    20 Resist Cold
    20 Resist Light
    20 Holy Shield
    1 Vengeance
    1 Conversion
    Rest into Conviction

    Use:
    Andariel's Visage (+2 skill, +10% max poison resist, LL, add poison to attack)
    Shaftstop Boneweave (30% DR)
    Thundergod's Vigor (+10% max light resist)
    Verdungo's Hearty Cord (15% DR)
    Exile Etheral Sacred Targe (get 65% enhanced damage, +5% max fire, cold resist, defiance, and more)
    Gorerider Boots
    Craft glove with 10% CB, 3%+ dual leech, resist, life ...
    Seraph's Hymn (% as high as possible)
    Raven frost for CBF and Nature's Peace for PMH
    Inventory fill with life/resist charms. Combat gc is good for hammerdin, not for aveanger.

    The weapon is tricky, the perfect one would be:
    Beast Caduceus with +3 Holy shield, +3 Vegeance, +3 Conviction.

    With this setup, you get:
    45% Physical dmg reduction
    90/90/95/85 max resist
    45% Crushing blow (remeber, no matter how godly you are, CB is the only thing that matters when a monster has huge hitpoints, such as DC, your vegeance damage will only show when only a silver of his life is left)

    That kind of gears are hard to find or trade for, especially the shield and the weapon. But since you said something about "best possible," I would just give my two cents.
     
  10. Amiral

    Amiral IncGamers Member

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    12x4 (if you count salvation as a res aura) would be 48 res skills... if not counting salvation, then still 36 as gzvernon said.
     
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    i personally would go with wartravs > gores
     
  12. PuSs Says Go Time

    PuSs Says Go Time IncGamers Member

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    hey shadoway isn't tgods and verdungo's both belts? might just use verdungo's tho forget tgods
     
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    Shadoway IncGamers Member

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    Whoops! My mistake.
    Just use verdungo's and put a Lo into shaft to still get 90% resist light.
     
  14. Squix

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    NOT 36 points! There's no point in pumping salvation, for resists or damage. And stop looking at his 12 points per res aura, that's too much for max resists (not sure where that came from). As he stated later, it's 30 points total (10 in each for +5 max each).
     
  15. Tyrrel

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    Looks good "ON PAPER"

    12 X 3= 36. Where did it come from? It came from the original post.

    I didn't want to say anything, but this is utterly impossible.

    At 86, you have 97 points to spend, at the most. To get the skill levels he listed you would have to have 96. What about the pre reqs?

    Yes, that would be a great character, if it was possible to make it.
     
  16. Squix

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    Oh, I know where it was first mentioned, I was just wondering where the original poster came up with it. I think his ammended values accurately portray what he intended to get accross:

    That's 101 points at lvl 89, although I didn't bother checking if it's actually 11 pre-reqs.
     
  17. nucks

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    You can use cleansing for the amp curse, I do on my hammerdin
     

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