Assassin question

Garant

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Assassin question

Hi,

I'm planning a Shadow-only Assassin but I don't know if you can have two or more of the aura-like skills (Burst of Speed/Fade/Venom) operating at the same time. Obviously you won't get two animations but if I cast BoS and then Venom will both function at once or will Venom overwrite BoS and I'll be back to normal attack speed?

Cheers!
 

wildjinn

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That will work fine. Venom will stack with either BoS or Fade. BoS and Fade are the two that can't work together. :) good luck with your char!
 

Shade

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In 1.10 you can use Venom always, but Burst of Speed and Fade will overwrite one another. (In 1.09 and previous Venom would also overwrite BoS/Fade)
 

Garant

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Brilliant stuff! Thanks a lot guys.

I'm thinking of maxing Claw Mastery, Venom and Shadow Master, getting 10 in BoS and Block and then points in Cloak and Blast to help with crowd control. In usually plan my characters to be more or less done at around 80 skill points because I rarely get beyond around level 80 with characters before I get bored of levelling them.
 

Uzziah

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I am building one of these also:

1 in cloak of shadows is enough +skills will make it work probably longer then you want it to.

If your sticking with claw then use maxed CM and 5 points in block again +skills will help with the block you really only need 50% with claw block.

Don't forget about mind blast it will more then likely end up being your main skill outside of attacking. I will be maxing mine.

Consider fade since you gain PDR at 1% per slvl in fade, while fade is active. you can get enough R/W and IAS elsewhere where as PDR and Resistances take more items to get maxed.

If you go with BoS you really only need 1 point in it +skill will take it up to the deminishing returns point quickly.

Don't forget Physic hammer it can be a good crowd control early on and can be helpful with LE later in the game. 1 point is all you really need in it.

@BeB Shadowsin uses only the shadow skill tree. Its a fairly tough build to get past nm in. It definately required +skills equipment and methodical playing.
 

BIGeyedBUG

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Uzziah said:
@BeB Shadowsin uses only the shadow skill tree. Its a fairly tough build to get past nm in. It definately required +skills equipment and methodical playing.
I didn't ask what it was, I asked which kind he was playing. I probably should have said "what kind of shadow tree Assassin?" since I think "Shadowsin" is used sometimes to describe a melee Assassin with no martial arts. I'm aware of a few different kinds of shadow tree Assassins:

Bowassin, Throwassin, Viper, Shadowfighter, Psychosin and my weird dream build Necrosin. Obviously there's some overlap between these, and some of the differences are merely matters of equpment or emphasis. A pure BFer without DS would probably fit in here as well, despite BF being a trap skill. Frenzied Bovine had one of these--it was the ultimate safety build in some ways. Mind Blast to pin monsters down and spread mayhem, a super Shadow Master to melee and cause some damage, and Blade Fury plinking away constantly.
 

Garant

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I'm planning on going the melee route. I've half built a bowsin before but I got bored with her and I figured I'd see how far you could get with a pair of claws and no MA.
 

jiansonz

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Uzziah said:
@BeB Shadowsin uses only the shadow skill tree. Its a fairly tough build to get past nm in. It definately required +skills equipment and methodical playing.
I disagree with two out three things here:

* This build can´t be that tough to reach hell with (and make good progress there), at least if you allow yourself a mercenary. You have excellent crowd control, a very good minion and the assassin herself can do decent damage with a large selection of weapons, using Venom and Burst of Speed. I have first-hand experience with a similar build. Even though my assassin used Dragon Talon against some enemies, for long periods of time she did very well without it (towards the end of NM). She didn´t even have a shadow, Mind Blast or Venom. Just her barbarian merc, a bow which she used with Burst of Speed and Cloak of Shadows.

* You don´t need + skills. I can´t see why that would be required.

* Methodical playing. Yes, this is true enough.
 
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