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Arreats or Guillaume?

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by ayaueto, Sep 23, 2006.

  1. ayaueto

    ayaueto IncGamers Member

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    Arreats or Guillaume?

    My USwest Non Ladder "Double Swinger" has the following set up:

    Guillaume or Arreats?
    Archon Coh
    Ebotdz x 2 (406/15, 395/12)
    Metalgrid 409/331/32
    String of Ears 7/15
    Ravenfrost 250/19
    rare ring - 8LL/18Str/115ar/1max
    Dracs 10/10
    Gorerider
    Anni 10/10/6
    Torch 13/12
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    Comparison of some aspects between Arreats and Guillaume that matters.

    Guillaume:

    Life Leech 50%
    Mana Leech 14%
    Crushing Blow 50%
    Deadly Strike 30%
    Open Wounds 35%
    Life 5107
    Defense 17508
    Attack Rating 7474
    Damage 1787-5275

    Arreats:

    Life Leech 53%
    Mana Leech 14%
    Crushing Blow 15% <---- Big Lost
    Deadly Strike 15% <---- Lost Half
    Open Wounds 35%
    Life 5228 <---- 121 Gain
    Defense 19199 <---- 1691 Gain
    Attack Rating 8975 <---- about 2% more chance to hit
    Damage 1815-5358 <----- slight gain


    I'm PvM only and i've tested a little of both helm killing monsters in act 4
    I really can't tell the killing speed or any other difference between
    the helms.

    So what will you wear? Guillaume or Arreats?
    Sacrifice CB/DS for the other tasty bonus? Or keep them?
     
  2. GreyGhost

    GreyGhost Banned

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    The LCS display is not correct. Don't rely on it to reflect accurate stats.

    IMO Arreats is superior for PvM. Crushing blow is really only useful for bosses, which you won't face all the time. Most players use Guillame's for specific situations in PvP. It's also useful for ubers if you don't already have CB from something else.

    It is usually better to mix weapons to get a variety of different mods. If you throw in a Beast, Last Wish, or Death as a weapon, they all carry CB, as well as other useful mods. Overlapping the same mods can be a waste (although Ebotd may be an exception).

    For double swing/frenzy, socket your arreats with a 40% ED / 15 IAS jewel. Remember that double swing doesn't get a damage bonus, only attack rating. Frenzy is the better skill IMO.
     
  3. soul killer

    soul killer Banned

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    In most cases, Arreats>Guilluames.
     
  4. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    The "slight gain" in the LCS in your damage does NOT surpass the damage gained via extra DS%.

    So you only lose a little bit or AR, some skills, and some defense.

    And no Crushing blow is NOT useful "just" in Boss battles. Most creatures have 1-5k life be they normal. And no, you will NOT deal 5k blows with dual EBotdZs. And most likely your Crushing blow will do more damage to the later on Hell monsters than your other damage.
     
  5. sirwhere

    sirwhere IncGamers Member

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    Gui's is much better, of course. Deadly and crushing PWNZ. Arreats is good in builds that require lots of skills.
     

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