Are Fire Druids Easy pk?
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Dennis_KoreanGuy
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superjayson
Diabloii.Net Member
it can be done, like you saw. it's just rare and is quite expensive to make a good one.
Sadly most people are ignortant (no offense DIEnamic) and think a fire druid is only capable of town guarding.
tuvard
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they guy was sick, he killed all, he said something like this: This char costs more then ur acc to a mage paladin ,and he said lol...
But he somehow killed all, i was a hammerdin with ~70 stacked resi in hell, and he still pwnt me and everyone else, cept the abser ,....
But he somehow killed all, i was a hammerdin with ~70 stacked resi in hell, and he still pwnt me and everyone else, cept the abser ,....
jake007
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Fire druids are very dependent on facets. Anyone who overstacks their fire-resistance by 70 can beat them with relative ease (Providing the fire druid don't play overly-defensive, otherwise it might be an annoying fight).
The thing is, not many people in pub overstack their fire-resistance...
The thing is, not many people in pub overstack their fire-resistance...
Phyrexial
Diabloii.Net Member
Haven't been here in ages... Surprised people are still discussing this. Look up some of the old discussions between mcm and ClanIraq (and some other Fire Druid user as well) and you'll find that we came to the conclusion that they really aren't competitive against a well prepared decent dueler. mcm sat still and tanked a "perfect" fire druid we were using for tests on Open with a BvC for quite awhile using only 75 res with stack. No absorb or +res. They dueled for a bit and mcm killed the fire druid a few times I believe (with no losses) before the fire druid player said the lag made it impossible to duel with a fire druid.
It's like a pure Foher. Can destroy a pub game given the right conditions but it won't hold up all the time or when a decent prepared dueler shows up.
It's like a pure Foher. Can destroy a pub game given the right conditions but it won't hold up all the time or when a decent prepared dueler shows up.
if you are hellbent on making a fire druid, I suggest you use claniraq's shaman.
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=355469
I tried searching for that thread where claniraq called out mcm, but didn't find it. hopefully someone has it
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=355469
I tried searching for that thread where claniraq called out mcm, but didn't find it. hopefully someone has it
nickedoff
Diabloii.Net Member
I really have to disagree with you.if you are hellbent on making a fire druid, I suggest you use claniraq's shaman.
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=355469
I tried searching for that thread where claniraq called out mcm, but didn't find it. hopefully someone has it
If you want a fire druid, make a true one. Don't start with a shaman; from experience, they just can't cut it.
It'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.
Vouch this.
ClanIraq was a player that talked too much on the forums without being able to back it up.
His build was basically made for telestomping players with a big bear. Of course on ladder where people have halfgeared or worse characters, that will pk players, so he got kills. I remember Koda called him out on ladder and he really couldn't do anything against a proper dueler. Not to mention the one time I ran into him in a nl game, he got slain by my nats set sin. A few times in a row.
Ive seen some attempts at high budget fissure druids, and they always seem lacking. Of course I have seen from time to time (back when I played on east) a fire druid clear out pub games, but thats because if you can pierce a player a good amount, fissure starts to hurt. Not to mention most pubby ladder players don't know about the existance of anyabug, which helps this cause out. Soon as the druid meets someone with stacked res, they have a problem however.
On a sidenote, there has been talk on d2pk to get rid of the cast delays between different spells (but not the same spell) for fire druids to make them viable. They are really underpowered at the moment when faced against a proper character. I kinda agree with this, firedruids to be beefed up a bit.
They of course are going to stay weaksauce on bnet, although they are alright pubbing chars I guess. Just exploit your opponent's already low resists.
Dragoneye
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Since i have a fire druid... i have to say that i haven't really totally lost to anyone... as in if someone does manage to kill me,i'll kill them many times over.
Most casters and amazons are pk.
I PK'd an absorbing bvc, and many other fire abs chars.
The key is that the fire druid does not only fire,but also physical dmg.
Wind druids,amazons,necros, most sorcs are all easy with Volcano since it sends them to stunlock. (only when casting it direclty under the oppnent though...) Usually 1-2 volcanoes is enough to kill a caster unless they have way too expensive equipment. (in which case they are still beatable,even pk'able)
VS melee chars i spam fissure and make them run inside it.
also...my equipment isn't that expensive... i haven't got any lifeskillers etc... not even a mara's. I PK'd a hammerdin who'se eq cost about 150 hr,whereas mine is about 14 hr. PK'd a wind druid who'se eq cost even more...
Also,do not make a shaman,i advise using no summons at all (except oak sage),but if you must,then use wolves. Since you need to max 5 skills and armageddon has 9 prereq's... doesn't leave you with much points to spend on summons
edit: stacked res is not much of a problem either,i killed an avenger pala that had 95 res +absorb + stacked.
This is the time where you use molten boulder (also count on armageddon)
Most casters and amazons are pk.
I PK'd an absorbing bvc, and many other fire abs chars.
The key is that the fire druid does not only fire,but also physical dmg.
Wind druids,amazons,necros, most sorcs are all easy with Volcano since it sends them to stunlock. (only when casting it direclty under the oppnent though...) Usually 1-2 volcanoes is enough to kill a caster unless they have way too expensive equipment. (in which case they are still beatable,even pk'able)
VS melee chars i spam fissure and make them run inside it.
also...my equipment isn't that expensive... i haven't got any lifeskillers etc... not even a mara's. I PK'd a hammerdin who'se eq cost about 150 hr,whereas mine is about 14 hr. PK'd a wind druid who'se eq cost even more...
Also,do not make a shaman,i advise using no summons at all (except oak sage),but if you must,then use wolves. Since you need to max 5 skills and armageddon has 9 prereq's... doesn't leave you with much points to spend on summons
edit: stacked res is not much of a problem either,i killed an avenger pala that had 95 res +absorb + stacked.
This is the time where you use molten boulder (also count on armageddon)
Uncle_Mike
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Are you by any chance Europe Ladder? :wave:
how much life and damage reduce does your fire druid have?
I dont know who you're dueling, but any half-decent bvc would kill a fire druid in one whirl. bowazons just have to spam multi arrow in your general direction. hammerdins have loads of res to counter anya bug and dwarves/hotspurs/grief in stash. charging through fissure will result in maybe 3 fissure hits if you're lucky, though not enough to kill or even do much damage to a 75 res 3000 hp hdin stacked 30 res deep... dwarf star or not. don't even start with smiters. or avengers (lol).
the only scenario in which I can see a fire druid actually pwning would be a pub game full of crap chars and an endless budget for the fire druid.
I'm talking jmod, lifers, 20/5, 100% perf gear. I don't know anyone who would dedicate that much to a fire druid.