Are bnet players generally richer than us single players?

[Icebird]

Bongo Fury is probably close to the mark. It really hinges on how you define "rich".

The average SP player is probably richer in self-found items than the average b.net player, because A) you get to keep your map and B) ATMA allows you to keep just about everything you find. I imagine a b.net player with a large item collection would spend a lot of tiime on mule maintenance.

In terms of traded items, I imagine the average battle.net player and average SP player are about equal, although the SP player would probably have more stuff sitting unused in stashes or on mules.

I think the richest players on b.net would be able to trade for better stuff than the richest SP players, simply because the item pool is exponentially bigger (because there are more players). And that's before dupes and hacks enter into the equation.

Just my two cents,
Chris

 

[DurfBarian]

It's sort of like saying "people in wartime Germany were really rich because they had wheelbarrows full of bills with lots of zeroes on them." Battle.net players might have easy access to lots of amazing items, but inflation means that those items are worth very little in relative terms.

Mister BN has a 40/14 jewel and sticks it in a random helmet for a test build. He posts about this in the Community forum, and people see that he has done this and go "meh."

Mister SP, meanwhile, makes a thread about the 40/15 he just cubed and gets 58 responses in a day: 26 say "you suck, I'm so jealous," 17 say "congrats man," and 15 are trade offers from people who want to give him top-of-the-line legit gear for the trinket.

Who is richer?

 

[LprMan]

That really good point, Durf :thumbsup:

 

[TekkaZeroX]

It really is. :thumbsup:

 

[Zertuals_Ovrlrd]

Here's a cookie

 

[Kremtok]

I'm richer than all of you. I found Wand of Ages today.

 

[DevontheGnomey]

I'm richer than all of you. I found Wand of Ages today.

did you know those things NEVER break, its awesome!


well bnetters ARE richer. they have all the highest end items, have the easiest access to more high end items, and can mat/pat faster(in general)

really what they are lacking is well.. me! I know it may sound self-absorbed(and i do treasure myself alot ) but despite all that item wealth i would never go back. SPF is more fun despite it all, there is no real viable trading community there, look at the trade board an arcaine's valor for p.gems... man does it suck to find an arcaines in THAT universe.

SP is where its at for most fun and the ability to actually trade your items, so here we are richer in the intangible stuff, the stuff that matters most!

 

[nikstone]

If you want get rich quickly itemwise, Diablo2 is not the game to play.
Diablo2 play is like hard work in the mines. You work hard and sometimes you find a really good jewel.
I have stopped playing D2 for about a year. Now, I am back with almost three months of fanatical play (10 hours and more per day).
How many high runes do I have - 1. Okay, I traded a few of them for really rare items for the grail.
I am not even thinking of runewords yet.

B.nett users (without cheating of course) should be richer because of more members and therefore more playtime and therefore more items available then in single player.

The difference between battle.net and single player could be something like this: BN players want to be the coolest of dudes with best stuff, praised and glorified by everyone etc., while SC players would be like more of the type of "honorable man in shining armor" and playing the game out of fun and some personal goals (grail, different builds, etc.).

 

[Zarhrezz]

Sorry, but that's just a tad stereotypical, bigheaded, and really not needed.

Said in jest, but on the other hand painfully true in alot of cases. What is quite ironic is the post just above yours:

I recently only played single player and I like how the map stays. BNet is rich in dupes and I've always been rushed. But not counting the dupes we are richer like all of you been saying.

I don't mean to offend anyone but let's face it, how many SPers do you know who haven't played the game through quest by quest?
Note that I'm not saying that all the people on bnet who don't know what f.i. the Gidbinn is are stupid or dumb...it's more a result of how bnet has evolved into a domain of rushing and high-level running. The parts of the game that are not required for Hell runs are skipped and thus people 'growing up' in that environment don't know any better. Sad, but true in at least some cases.

 

[Online]

I was always thinking why people play on battle.net . Most of them just get rushed, levels up , creates second character .... They don't even need to mf , i'm sure you can get high lvl items from dupers .

Anyway , yes they have more items

 

[Fafner]

Look at the amount of knowledge he have about finding Runes...we actually try to find them! wtf?!? why not just trade 17 Windforces for that Ber you need.

I'm gonna have to agree with the line that says we're equally as rich...in legit items. We just can't cut it with trades compared to them, even with this forum...although without this forum I wouldn't have any TC 87's yet...now I have one.

I think B-net is fine for what B-net does, but I'd rather MP with people I know and trust, which is what a lot of B-net people do. We're even starting a PvP seen here...and as soon as I make that chaos claw...look out (actually I should probably look out, but it's fun to dream isn't it).

 

[Bongo Fury]

It's sort of like saying "people in wartime Germany were really rich because they had wheelbarrows full of bills with lots of zeroes on them." Battle.net players might have easy access to lots of amazing items, but inflation means that those items are worth very little in relative terms.

I don't understand your analogy. Both B-nutters and SPFers are using the same 'currency' i.e. items. The wartime Germany (treading close to Godwin here, lol) currency with lots of zeros doesn't mean anything if everyone is using the same currency. It's all relative. Now if you're comparing a 1,000,000 mark note to a dollar bill, that's something else. But that doesn't apply here since we're both using the same 'currency'. Thus the original question, are SPF or B-net players 'richer'.

Another thing that enhances the 'wealth' of B-netters is the large PK/Dueling scene, which doesn't seem to exist here. Particularly the low level PKs/duelers in HC. They pay insane prices for some of that gear. If you find the right jewel or charm with your new character in A1 normal, you can easily trade it for multiple Stormshields. Boom, instant wealth. [as before, all comparisons are legit SPFers and legit B-nutters]

 

[farting bob]

because blizzard had the interlect to see that a large number of dupers were active, they know that they must clamp down on this, to stop them spoiling the game for honest people. so they invent this diabloclone, make a counter that actually doesnt do anything for SOJ sales, thinking all the duped SOJs (one of the most heavily duped items after runes) would be sold and that was all. what they forgot to realise is the very nice charm that you get for killing DC is worth getting rid of the SOJs. so people dupe more SOJ's and more and ore until they can spawn the DC clone. in the mean time, people sell them on (at a terrible price that would make SP'ers cringe) as they have no space. and so the SOJ's eventually are owned by all people, no matter how much theyve played the game, they ave the SOJ's.
so that was blizzards fault. and runes. please dont get started on runes...
so many bnetters who are normally not cheaters feel that to survvie in this world of godly PK'ing 12yr olds wearing duped gear, they must also wear the duped items and runewords.
the SOj's and runes are good examples of everybody owning the rare items, so theoretically they should be richer, but as there self contained trading circle, the value of a ber is no where near as high as a ber in SP. so they are not richer. they just own better items.

 

[LowLander]

I get the impression from those knowing BNET posting here, that they definetely have more stuph. And very definetely more ITAMZ than I do.

Are they richer? In their mind, very probably, yes.

In my mind? I am just having too much fun (and the shivers, anxiety and mini-heart-attacks) getting my (SP, untwinked, HC, Single-tree) Assassin to Act-3 Hell, to care. So I don't. Care that is. Which makes this post kinda redundant. *Erase*