Are berserker barbs still useable?

[Sharakorr]

Are berserker barbs still useable?

I remember back in 1.09 when berserker barbs were somewhat popular, and i've always wanted to make one but never really got around to it. So, can berserker barbs still cope in 1.10?

any suggestions welcome :fish:

 

[bradley_turner]

a build like :
20 - mastery
20 - shout
20 - howl
20 - battle orders
20 - berserk
1 - increased speed
1 - iron skin
1 - nat resist
1 - find item
1 - battle command
5 - prereqs

gives berserk +385% attack rating, +835% magic damage, and the time your def is 0 is 1.3 seconds

whether you consider it viable or not is up to you

 

[Sharakorr]

looking at how the synergies work... i've reconsidered, concentrate barb seems much better, but i liked the look of the shield+sword so much

 

[bradley_turner]

you could go concentrate with weapon / shield, with a weapon like a 5 socket rune master, but youd have to be rather rich to give it the dmg most people demand of their weapons

on bnet i had a conc barb with a 5 socket runemaster that had 5 ed / ias jewels in it and wore ss, he was pretty good

 

[Sharakorr]

would azurewrath have high enough dmg :scratch:
or perhaps doombringer, try as i might, i can't find a 5 sock runemaster

 

[Randall]

Did you check out our stickied post about character guides ?

There is one beserker barb guide in there from nightfish

Here is the direct link:

http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=126634

Randall

 

[Sharakorr]

mmhmm, nightfish's build is slightly different from what i want tho. I was thinking of a berserker barb that used WW for crowds and berserk for smaller groups. thx tho

 

[Lialdia]

Berserk combined with WW?
I had one back in 1.09 (on my long gone Bnet account though), was wielding a polearm for massive damage and reach.

Why not build and see for yourself if it's viable? I am pretty sure it could make it through hell with careful playing and some beforehand planning.

As for weapon + shield, it should do well with 75% block and both WW and Berserk. You just need high Physical damage weapon for best effets with Berserk.

I still believe that every build, be they how weird, can go through hell with careful playing. I am trying some weird builds myself right now, and they're doing considerably well, and if nothing else, it is fun and a challenge

 

[Crazy Runner Guy]

Whatever you are truely looking for, I assure you that you don't need WW for a zerker build. Not even one point. For crowds, all you do is stun with War Cry (which at high lvls i.e. 20+ gets over 5 seconds of stun, even in hell) or if it gets too ugly, just Howl and make everyone run.

WW is not crowd control.

Also, I don't know if you have played a barb yet in v1.10, but they are very different from v1.09. Sure WW barbs still work (I have one to prove it), but they are more item dependent than ever. Zerk is great because the best weapon in the game for it would probably be a Steeldriver, and that can be found by NM Meph quite easily (but don't tell NF that).

v1.10 barbs (non-WW ones I should add) are all about crowd control. Many builds incorporate War Cry, Howl, Shout and Taunt into their builds so they can kill more effeciently. Also, the use of warcries makes your barb less item dependant. Who cares if you do crap damage if everything is stunned for 5 seconds?

I rest my case,
crg

 

[Sharakorr]

i see your point crazy runer , thx for the input everyone

 

[HBeachBabe]

don't forget to max increase stamina :lol:

 

[Sharakorr]

LOL i just voted that to be the most useless skill in FB's useless skill thread oint:

edit:...is it just me or does the point icon not work?

 

[D2Addict]

Whatever you are truely looking for, I assure you that you don't need WW for a zerker build. Not even one point. For crowds, all you do is stun with War Cry (which at high lvls i.e. 20+ gets over 5 seconds of stun, even in hell) or if it gets too ugly, just Howl and make everyone run.

WW is not crowd control.

Also, I don't know if you have played a barb yet in v1.10, but they are very different from v1.09. Sure WW barbs still work (I have one to prove it), but they are more item dependent than ever. Zerk is great because the best weapon in the game for it would probably be a Steeldriver, and that can be found by NM Meph quite easily (but don't tell NF that).

v1.10 barbs (non-WW ones I should add) are all about crowd control. Many builds incorporate War Cry, Howl, Shout and Taunt into their builds so they can kill more effeciently. Also, the use of warcries makes your barb less item dependant. Who cares if you do crap damage if everything is stunned for 5 seconds?

I rest my case,
crg

When you are talking about best weapon for a zerker are you talking in 1.10? I doubt that is best then either. Speed is key at least in 1.09. Steeldriver is easy to find though. My 1.09 zerker uses a Messy Reaver hits 12 FPS attack which is 1 short of best speed possible and averages over 4600 damage. Crowds are never a problem. If things get a little rough he has PDR gear, whirlwind and battle cry too.

 

[GooberGrape]

You may not need WW for a zerker build, but you need something to leech with. WW is handy because it only takes one whirl and you've leeched to full. I'd still recommend a Concentrate barb with a point of Berzerk for PI's, they are so much more durable.


GG

 

[Sharakorr]

hey guys i've come up with another build...What do u guys think of this?

bash-20
stun-1
concentrate-20
berserk-2
leap-1
leap attack-1
double swing-20
sword mastery-20
iron skin-1
natural rez-1
howl-1
shout-1
battle orders-20
battle command-1
taunt- +/-1 (i can put this into natural rez if i don't use it)

 

[Crazy Runner Guy]

You may not need WW for a zerker build, but you need something to leech with.

That's not true. I only had 4% LL and no mana leech and competed hell just fine.

For a zerker, think of it as icing on the cake. It is nice, but by no meens necessary.

crg

 

[Vajar]

I agree, you don't need leech at all as a Berserker - I have one in late hell and he's cruisin along.

 

[jmcmahon24]

taunt- +/-1 (i can put this into natural rez if i don't use it)

Put the point (or even more than one point) in taunt. Taunt rocks in 1.10. All those nasty ranged attackers walk calmly up to you to be slaughtered one at a time instead of sitting back in the distance smashing you with arrows/darts/javelins etc.

James