Anyone have a realy nice fire druid pvp build?

cowtestickles

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Anyone have a realy nice fire druid pvp build?

I want to make a ele fire druid for pvp, and i'm just wondering if anyone has a realy good build for one.
 

cowtestickles

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i read that already a few times, its quite old though. Thought maybe someone has a more updated guide or even someone with a fire druid that does good in pvp games.
 

Skullbash

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Yeah, that guide is pretty old, but most of what it says still holds true. I think one of the choices for gear is somewhat strange, and maybe one or two of the dueling strategies aren't in depth enough, but other than that it's pretty spot-on. Unlike some of the other fire druid guides, you can tell the guy who wrote it knows what he's talking about and has firsthand experience.

My fire druid is currently unequipped but I used to duel with him quite a bit. What were you wondering about?
 

Narcotic

Banned
I use spirit as my shield and switch between either arach or dungo and fcring or bk. This way i get the 86 fhr bp and can also get 99 fcr if i need it. I chose to max firestorm before molten boulder so my fissure did as much damage as possible as early as possible.
 

cowtestickles

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well just like, if i should go max block with all the chargers and ww barbs on east now. Also how much fcr should u have since there is that delayed casting timer. Also i question his skills. I would think loosing a bit of damage for almost double your health would be worth it.
 

Narcotic

Banned
If you max block then you definitely need to max oak sage. If you go full vit, one point will do it.

Basically, with max block you will have around 1200 base health (after item bonuses etc. [at least with my gear]), maxed oak sage will give me 200% life on top of the ~90% gained from BO. At the end of this, I will have max block and around 4800 life. Now, with full vit I will have 1600 base health but only 105% from sage. Oddly enough this still ends up to be 4800 life (with BO also). It all comes down to whether you value damage or max block more. Oh, and if you are using SS or Sanctuary then max block is a lot easier to obtain and you will be better off, I prefer spirit though so full vit works for me, and as far as melee classes go, you should be telee-ing out of their path anyway so max block isn't a very good idea (pretend you're a sorceress, you don't need max block because you will just be dodging all blockable attacks, same concept applies here except you don't tele as fast, this works for against all melee classes and for zons, stack minions and tp right on the zon).
 

slothkin

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If you max block u most likely wearing a spirit. IMO the only way to make a fire druid worth it for pvp is a 30/-30 fire sword in ur mainhand. If u have this you will need spirit for cast rate to be able to teleport at a decent speed. So max block is out.
 

Skullbash

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If you're going for max block, Use SS or another high block shield, Spirit requires far too much of an investment in dexterity. Keep in mind that against some melee characters you will not always be able to get away fast enough to avoid being hit i.e. WWSin(Stunlock), BvC, TeleSmiters since you don't have the cast rate of a sorc. Bowzons also can be a problem since you don't really have the tele bombing capabilities of a wind druid.

Also something not touched on yet is FRW, Which is as important (if not more so) than FCR. A lot of dueling with a fire druid is like a trapper and involves positioning, But since you don't quite have the range of lightning sentry you need to move...and quickly. I don't know how much you planned on using Armageddon, But with high FRW it is far more easy to control.

You definitely don't ALWAYS need the 30/30 to be successful, Although against people that stack/sorb you it might help (although depending on how much they use even that might not be enough). Another option is to shop an artisan's tower shield of deflecting from either larzuk or halbu in act 4 and stuff it with 3 fire facets to keep your block up (If you're insanely rich and lucky you could try and find a legit jmod to trade for.)

As far as skills, Thats where fire druids are the most fun, Everyone plays them differently and you have a ton of versatility to mess around with. I'd say make one and find out what setup works for you, Be creative, If you don't like the result, You can always remake.

Here are a couple of setups that people use:

Pure Fire Druid
1-20 Firestorm
1-20 Molten Boulder
20 Fissure
20 Volcano
1-20 Armageddon
0-1 Ravens
1-20 Oak
0-1 Spirit Wolves, Dire, and Bear

ClanIraq's
Shaman (From what I can tell anyway, the guy that made the guide got banned from here and it kind of vanished into the ether)
20 Volcano
20 Fissure
20 Grizzly
20 Molten Boulder
0-1 Armageddon
1 Oak Sage
1 HoW
I'll PM you the link for this, I'm not sure if I can post it here

TheMayor's
Dual Elementalist (Not sure if this actually works, but it definitely looks cool)
20 Cyclone Armor
20 Tornado
20 Fissure
20 Volcano
10+ Hurricane
1 All summons except vines
The Link:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=587976&highlight=Dual+Elementalist

These are NOT the only options, mess around and you could stumble onto a good build by accident. I'm currently knocking around the idea of a partially synergized cyclone armor and/or a 10 point oak sage. If you're on east Non Ladder I'll duel you once I get my new druid up and running.
 
ClanIraq's
Shaman (From what I can tell anyway, the guy that made the guide got banned from here and it kind of vanished into the ether)
20 Volcano
20 Fissure
20 Grizzly
20 Molten Boulder
0-1 Armageddon
1 Oak Sage
1 HoW
I'll PM you the link for this, I'm not sure if I can post it here
Thats pretty spot on. THey haven't really devised a way to banish me into the ether yet, though.

And if it isn't obvious, for the leftover skill points you should pump firestorm. I don't especially recommend the build to people who are new or otherwise not insanely good at dueling, as it takes a remarkable amount of skill to utilize the whole "bear-factor". If you aren't familiar with the idea of telebombing people with a bear, you might be better off with one of the pure fire builds. They are just more inherently limited in most duels.
 

Jary

Diabloii.Net Member
:thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a243RcXW3Eo

Theres a neat little video of it in action.
cool vid, good song too :thumbsup:

I think the build is really cool, so is the vid.. but I'm not the biggest fan of the all around build sry, and it's mainly just 'cause your two main attacks... volcano & griz... only half synergized and that sorta bothers me : /

1 pt in HoW, sorta a waste in my book.. prolly adds 1k damage to your griz at best, it'd be sweeter if you at least had that maxed (however I realize not enough points >.<). Also, since only 1 pt Gedon, your volcano is only 1/2 synergized...your main attack..? and also your gedon does like 1/3 its potential and that's sorta grrr'ish. It's like you started going for one thing and gave up half way lol

I dunno, just seems like taking the 20 points from grizzly and finishing off fire with all that awesome fire gear you have would be better.. maybe even use infinity on switch vs barbs and such with a point in Werebear just for survival/tank purposes when your health gets low. However, I love to see new things so I do give you mad props for creativity, it does look like a lot of fun :)

Are you on West ladder, I'd love to duel for fun :thumbsup:



 

pedu

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I dont get it. Everytime that build comes up, somebody puts it down. This is the druid forum ffs. Its not like the fury/rabies build is the best pvp out there either. It is the funnest tho. Anyways, the build does have some visible weirdness as pointed out, but the thing is, why does it constantly have to be stomped on?
Maybe the author keeps selling it for more than its worth, but still, does it make the build itself so bad?
If this was the pally forum and somebody posted a weird build there with equal weirdness i would understand... :wink2:
 

Skullbash

Diabloii.Net Member
I dont get it. Everytime that build comes up, somebody puts it down. This is the druid forum ffs. Its not like the fury/rabies build is the best pvp out there either. It is the funnest tho. Anyways, the build does have some visible weirdness as pointed out, but the thing is, why does it constantly have to be stomped on?
Maybe the author keeps selling it for more than its worth, but still, does it make the build itself so bad?
If this was the pally forum and somebody posted a weird build there with equal weirdness i would understand... :wink2:
I think it has to do with ClanIraq being something of a black sheep here, although I have no idea about the details of why that is...


 

cowtestickles

Diabloii.Net Member
hmm the shaman looks kinda fun, do you think it would be better to do the pure fire build to get the timing down then try out the bear?
 
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