Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

MYK

MYK

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Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

Seeing as how I don't rebuild my necro and I just think about stuff to try out if I ever get him going again, how about Crescent Moon?

You know, Treachery, Andarial's Visage (IAS jewel goes here)...

Jab(These are fast!), Jab, static, Jab, Static, Static, poke, CE, CE, CE... Pick up loot, move on.


Just an idea I was thinking about. What do you think?
 
stephan

stephan

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

Basically that's pretty much the same idea as kick/trappers using CM or Stormlash where Static softens up the monster's for CE. I don't know the exact speed of the merc's Jab, but the idea is sound in theory.
 
plasmo

plasmo

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

Static on Crescent Moon is only 7%, so that means on average it takes about 14 hits to get a static.

The main competitor of static is crushing blow. The cheapest crushing blow is Obedience (40%), but if you have the runes, Infinity has 40% as well plus conviction. That means the merc only need to hit 2.5 times per CB. Plus, Guillaume's Face gives 35% and Duress gives 15%. While there are tons of other better armors, the CB of Guillaume's is pretty hard to pass up if you want your merc to be killing rather than just surviving, which would boost CB to 75%.

IIRC, CB suffers from the scaling monster phys resists in hell, whereas static isn't effected, but I think the fact that it would hit so much more often would put it over static, not to mention the other mods, especially on Infinity, are so much better.

Interesting thought, though, and perhaps you could run the numbers or test the difference in-game.
 
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Ax2Grind

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

One major difference is Static Field hits everything in the radius which isn't immune to lightning, crushing blow only the target, and neither can be leeched from. With a Static or two everything usually dies from a single Corpse Explosion, and those that don't will probably be finished off by skeletons or the mercenary. All you need is fast attack and 7% will be sufficient, but lack of life stealing can really be a problem if he's getting knocked around - he might not live long enough to trigger the Field.
 
BobCox

BobCox

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

Static also hits more than one if he's mobbed, and don't forget the -38% ELR. Pretty Cheap if your NL and can't make insight or obedience.
 
noticks

noticks

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

I have a lvl 92 Necro with my merc using the infinity, gulliamie, and duress as described above. I found a sweet map that I can get to Baal's throne room quickly and the CB combo kills baal in less than 90 seconds from there, usually. Actually I think it might be faster, but I'm trying to be conservative here. All I have to do is stand around and cast decrepify once in a while.

I socketed the merc's hat with an amn so when the CB doesn't trigger, the merc leaches a bit and you can definitely see that helping if he's been dinged. I do throw a potion on the moron when needed, but it isn't needed all too often. I am very happy with this set up!

I have decent MF% being a little over 300% iirc, and I am currently addicted to baal runs and collecting all kinds of stuff I thought I would never see! Seems like I get a unique ring every other day or so, but still no SOJ yet. Several dwarfs and ravens, as well and a carrion wind recently. (This really is my first great baal runner.)

Killing baal with a similar setup before I discovered CB used to take 5 min or more once I was at baal - and that was with me casting bone spirit as fast as I could and downing blues often as well. Still no danger of dying, just much slower.
 
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maiku

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

MYK said:
Seeing as how I don't rebuild my necro and I just think about stuff to try out if I ever get him going again, how about Crescent Moon?

You know, Treachery, Andarial's Visage (IAS jewel goes here)...

Jab(These are fast!), Jab, static, Jab, Static, Static, poke, CE, CE, CE... Pick up loot, move on.


Just an idea I was thinking about. What do you think?
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Works well. Generally, I find it doesn't quite keep up with the kill speed that an eth "Obedience" offers in solo or small games...but that changes when you enter medium to large games, where monster life is bulked up a lot. Then "Crescent Moon" has the edge. Its Static works over a wide area and allows you to get your CE chain going quicker and minions to finish off the weakened enemies.

If you can get your "Crescent Moon" into an eth Thresher (which is fast), then you can substitute a Stealskull for the Andy's Visage and use this setup for MF. Or another possibility is Guillaume's + IAS jewel, so you can get CB + Static in the same setup. Just make sure you have lots of minions running around, because your Merc would be without leech in that case.

I also think "Crescent Moon" works well on a Lord of the Magi or Poisonmancer build. The ability to have such a poweful AoE attack like Static definitely works in their favor, and you can keep Static relevant against LIs by breaking them with Lower Resist (well, many of them anyway).


 
noticks

noticks

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

Doh! :shocked:

You are right about the Amn rune. I guess I can add that to the "Stupid things I've done" thread.

Still, my setup is fast and efficient, and the only time the merc dies is if I don't hear the OK's casting iron maiden in time.

I need to think about re-socketing that helm now.
 
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Anthraquinone

Anthraquinone

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Re: Anyone abusing Crescent Moon merc with their Fishy?

My experiences with Crescent Moon on a merc for my fishy aren't that positive:
I had the rune word made in a thresher; my merc wore a 45ias armor & andy's. Still, static just doesn't trigger often enough.

-AnQ
 
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