Adventures in BM baals...

[NightShade]

Should I prepare the backup lion?

 

[STINGER]

I find it rather halarious the founders of TPPK have to go private and cant go public and expose themsleves to the same **** they put on other people.

I doubt anyone ever thought for a second that BM Clan Members were not "cool" to thier friends for the most part or there wouldnt be a "clan".

As for being "honest", same goes there, they need to be honest or there is no "clan".

Telesorcs get drops in public with the right people also, and besides what do a bunch of botters need with more gear?

You know, in a band of theives, murderers, mafia...etc there will always be rules of conduct, and those that are in/immune/safe will be fine but cross them and its over.

I find it rather disgusting that because you find thier private run to be rather pleasant that you feel the need to come here and make them out as "great guys" when strange enuff there use to be at any given time 5-30 pretty good runs going before TPPK. Ya sure there were dicks around but there were many runs that were very fast, very mannered, and very safe also. Unfortunately now there arent very many of these, and at any given time one of these will get ruined by one of the "great guys".

I am willing to bet that even me (but only if unknown) could have a hell of a great time running wiht the lamest of lamers, and I could walk away from that and feel it was time spent well, but it still doesnt make these people "great guys".

Well, I was just in a BMPK baal run game, and we did 10 or so runs to all level up, heres the story...

I entered a random public game and was recognized by phantom and tec, as well as 2 other bmpkers.
We then all went to a private run with 6-7 people per run...
Phantom (bm)
Tec (x2) (bm)
me
cougar
project(bm)
deadbolt'd
one other guy named mark (bm)

The point of the story is that many people have the impression that bmpkers are all bad people or something, basically I wanted to say that after my experiences with them on any level other than them tppking in random baals i am in, have been good... I talked some pvp with one of them in a dueling game, I know the 3 easties of the legit team (shade billy and phantom) and I have met some others such as project, beth/tec etc.

The good thing about them (the ones i have met anyways) Is that despite their image, they are really not all about killing people, if you know them (I hadent met any of them before tonight outside the forums, maybe phantom a time or 2 briefly online) they are more honest about not stealing or killing and whatnot that 95% of battle.net. Everyone sees them as terrible people who cheat at every turn, in reality, the ones i know are respectful, know their pvp stuff, fun to play with etc.

Of course, thats not true when pking, but hey, its not true for me or any other legit pker either, when we pk, we are after ears, thats the bottom line. Now dont get me wrong, I think tppking is very lame and I in no way support it, I'm just saying that behind the image of the evil people in BMPK, the ones I know are nothing like that... Its the first baal run ive been in where I felt safe, and I was surrounded by bmpkers. Also, the tele-er really did get the drops from baal, it was fast exp, safe portals, etc etc, all this in a BMPK baal game, basically, when they are not pking, they are really cool people, but hey, I'm not a cool person to the people I'm pking either, Basically, I'm saying that people should see beyond the reputation, and yeah, be careful in public games... basically, these guys are pretty cool people, other than the use of tppk

Just some food for thought... and again, dont get me wrong, I;m saying that behind the tppkers are some pretty cool people when you get to know them, and no, I dont support tppking any more than I ever have, dont even accuse me of that, or of defending hacks, i am doing neither, I am saying BEYOND the hacks.
It was a very fun time hanging with them knowing i was safe, and I would do it again anytime.

-Matt

 

[Matt]

Stinger, you are missing the point. I am in NO WAY DEFENDING TPPKing! I'm not saying "well, with this lovely tppk all about I can go have a good time with bmpkers and we will all work on our tppks, but on on eachother because they are nice to only people in their clan, everyone else is nothing but scum to them"

Basically, the thing is, tppk sucks, yes it does. I hate it. I dont belive for a minute though, that in an 8 person public run where the sorc teleports, the whole group will go kill baal, then all back off and let the sorc choose what he/she wants. Not going to happen. Sure, if you happened to get say 8 of the 9 trustworthy people on public battle.net it could happen, but hey, by the same tolken, in a perfect public game, I should be able to ask any person to hold my shako and stormshield and feel safe coming back to get it. No, its just not gonna happen.

What I'm saying is, that while I didnt know ANY of them besides from this forum, and I didnt really know them at all until last night... more on a "forum handle recognition" basis. They had no reason not to kill me, I'm not a "friend of bmpk" (just a friend of some people in it) or "a tppk sympathizer" and I'm not a member of bmpk. It comes down to this... I have an aquatiance in bmpk, so he tells his buddies not to pk me during the public runs, by no means does that mean I am now immune to tppk or something, I mean, my friends (well, tec is the only non 100% legit one i know, billy phantom and shade are all legit) wont tppk me, but the people i dont know as well in the run wont like add me to a "dont kill" list, I'm fair game when not in a private run.

But the thing is, I wouldent expect any more... If one of those people happens to be in a travincal game I'm pking in, I'll kill them just as soon as they would kill me in a baal run. I'm not saying that BMPK is a bunch of hack free guys and girls who have been slandered to the point that their legit selves are portrayed as using tppk. No, not at all. Yes, they do use tppk and some of them bot, no, I dont think thats right, but I'm saying beyond that, they are some pretty cool people.

I am not saying that tppk is ok, or that bots are ok, I am saying that past the hacks which is their ENTIRE image (nobody says bmpk without thinking about tppks for example) they are really some pretty cool people, much cooler than the 50% of battle.net whose entire vocabulary is "stfu" "lol" "pwn". I mean, thats the image bmpkers have, of being like that, but from what I saw they are not, out of the 5-6 bmpkers I have met and played with for a little while, they are the opposite of that, they are really mature (besides the hacks ) Basically, I'm just saying theres a side to them that I for one didnt see, and I think more of us SHOULD see it. OF course they cant be trusted in public games, but who can?

I mean, look at Connermac. Hes not in bmpk, he doesnt cheat, but he ruins lots of SC baal runs! I'm not in bmpk, I dont use any cheats, and I cleave off plenty of ears in public runs of any kind! Again, I'm not trying to in any way justify their use of hacks, I am simply saying that beyond that, which we can all agree is not cool, they are pretty nice people, and I sure didnt know that, and I bet many of you didnt either, thats all I'm saying.

-Matt

 

[laughingtiger]

Psst.... M O R A T O R I UM It wasn't that long ago that there was a sticky about BM issues and phlegmfests. :cheesy:

 

[turnips]

It's like befriending the mafia...once they like you you're the safest you can be?!

Well...last season a BMPKER named Chris(?) and I were sorta friendly to each other. Before I knew he was BM I dueled him and he held out pretty well and didn't chicken. Anyone who duels legit and fights well deserves an iota of respect. However, he probably was the most ridiculous user of noobspeak I've ever met. Anyway, once he looted me and gave me my stuff back when I went over my head with my kicker, gave me a bsod I really needed. The only problem I had with him was that he wouldn't stop asking to be added to my /f l because I wouldn't go farther than seeing him randomely in dueling games. Also he tried to TPPK some lamer...then wouldn't duel me. I guess it was more of a semi-respect/sorta like-hate relationship. But after all this rambling, he was nice...to me...but I don't know why...

 

[Matt]

Yeah, that is a good point Tiger.... I didnt remember that, but am i ok because the point of the thread is not to flame anyone?

Well, The only ones I am friends with are phantom billy and shade. I am friendly with Tec, but I dont know her very well as of right now, and none of them fall into the "wont duel only tppk" category, nor the "1337 speak" category... Like I said, there could be more BMers who are real idiots, who have no business being out of their parents sight (aka 'kiddies')

I dont know all of who is in BM and whose not, so i might be wrong, but for example, that shortbus guy, I cant stand him, hes a real jackass... I'm not really saying this about all of them per say, because I dont know all of them, but the one I played with last night anyways are who I'm talking about.

-Matt

 

[HR-Tecira]

This is a sort of different thread than those. This is actually not someone complaining about being killed by BM.

Of course since Matt exposed the other side of BM now we will have to hunt him down and kill him to silence him (joking).

That was pretty much a typical leveling baal run. The other format we will do sometimes, esp with hell baal series, is rotation. When we do a baal rotation then everyone in the run gets a game where they get all throne and baal drops (and if a counter starts they get the anni if Diablo walks).

Shortbus, aka rIseabove, we kicked out of BM for being a jerk and an idiot. Last I heard he was part of GGK. Chris (forum people remember him as one of the Cracker brothers) goes through phases he can be great to be around or he can go into an immature spell.

 

[cougar]

It's kind of like that part on Pirates of a Caribbean ya know.

"What a man can and can't do" part.

As in, he can be a pirate, and still be a good man. Or you can just look at em like he's a pirate.


You may disagree with their methods. But you can still be friends w/ them, and you can still play w/ them.

 

[kurg]

they are really some pretty cool people, much cooler than the 50% of battle.net whose entire vocabulary is "stfu" "lol" "pwn".

In real life, how many people have you met with only that vocabulary?

Conclusion: Most of the battle-net immature/hacking crowd is cooler once you get to know them than they are at first glance.

On the other hand, why not be cool at first glance, and help others out and not tppk? Then you'd be cooler than 98% of battlenet instead of only being cooler than 50%!

Joining a clan that utilizes TPPK is promoting the problem, and therefore IS condoning TPPK activities whether you say you condone it or not.

 

[cougar]

No it's not. Joining a clan and not using TPPK is cleaning the clan up. Flushing out the old, bringing in the new.

Injecting legitness, where there previously was none.

In real life, how many people have you met with only that vocabulary?

Plenty, their all over the place.

 

[Matt]

I havent joined any clan :innocent:

 

[ZappaFan]

There's good and bad in every group. Percentages of each might be up for debate, but these threads historically turn into flamefests so I'm locking it down.