about dodge,evade etc

[Terrapis]

about dodge,evade etc

i still think to not put points in evasion skills because i think its dangerous because to there is much frames in her dodge skills and also deadly vs doom wepon with holy freeze like barb who use doom holy freeze that make ama dodge verry slow and is maybe verry vulnerble to second attacks or is she in that dodge animation even when dodge verry slow because of holy freeze invincible to any attack? does any1 else think evasion skills on pvp is dangerous??

 

[NASE]

We first need to know what build you are using, some may have less use for them. From what I read in the guides, and I'm sure you have do so aswell, all guides advise to use them. Ask yourself this question, what else is going to safe you? Your high life? Your high defense? All you have is max block, and in some occasions max damage reduction and max res. Though bowazon don't really look to this as the most imortant thing.
The best thing to do is stay out of danger by using lots of frw and d/e/a.

P.S. holy freeze is going to kill you anyway if you go with a high frw build. The additional weakness from d/e/a will makes close to no difference with holyfreeze users. Therefore, holyfreeze is bm according to some, and most people won't use holyfreeze anyway, unless they are out to get you. It will safe you more then hurt you if you ask me.

 

[Terrapis]

o yea i bulding java pvp zon cs as main attack and wich attack does more damage lightning bolt or lightning fury in pvp? is see some java zons use a ranged lightning attack and i cant say wich it is lb or lf? if it is lf then i want to max out lightning strike instead(better in pvm) the skills i wil max then for sure are cs,lf,ls

so even for a java zon 1 point in evasion skills wont hurt at all yes??

 

[Banjotron]

Yeah. 1 point in the defensive passives can actually do a lot for you. If you're well-geared, just having 1 point + skill-ups is like having 3/4 of the effect you'd get with 20. To give you an idea, lets say you've got +8. With that, you get the following:

1 point Dodge/Evade: 46%
1 point Avoid: 54

20 point Dodge/Evade: 59%
20 point Avoid: 69%

It can be dangerous for two reasons, but I think the good outweighs the bad here. The first danger is that evasion stops you cold when it triggers. This can potentially be a killer. Then again, consider what happens if you DON'T evade in PvP. Would you rather be stopped cold evading a WW, or would you rather die from it instantly?

The second is that Dodge/Avoid can end up triggering non-attacks if it triggers right as you start a special attack. I don't really know how to describe this. You see yourself attacking, but nothing actually happens. I'm not 100% sure if this applies to jav skills, but I think it probably does. You shouldn't be hanging around in melee range of your enemies long enough for this to be a problem, though.

The way I look at it, the bulk of your damage prevention should come from avoiding attacks with very high FRW. It's good to have the passives in place just in case you take a stray one here or there.

 

[NASE]

maxing lightning fury is a good idea. It can bounce off on walls making aiming much easier and it is your only good defense versus summoners. Lightning fury will fry them, just like in pvm, where cs will make you go in mele range.
Why not max cs, lf and lb, then you chose what ranged attack to use.

 

[ShazamLies]

Lb is pure lightning damage so if they have stacked resists, lf is probably better. Lf is also better vs. minions. However lb I think ignores block... so with knockback that can be pretty fun.