a timely affair - success atlast So me and my brother played with two amazons, me a javezon with lightning fury, and he with a strafezon. The ancients took us about 30 minutes (guessing) in hell. This seemed like a long time. What also seemed peculiar, was that all 3 ancients kept targetting my amazon, and ignoring my brother's zon and both our valkaries??? why i ask. the same happened with diablo, and with baal, they kept coming just for me??? in the end, i just kept running in circles while my brother shot at them, i rarely turned around and threw a plaque javelin in the ancients' direction. of course, he ran out of arrows, so he relied on magic arrow, which slowed progress down even more. eventually the ancients were abolished. good thing too, cause i had about 2 healing potions left. we killed baal after about 50 minutes. what an epic battle of determintation. it really was my longest ever fight against one enemy in diablo. the result: my 1st matriarch!!!! (i only have one patriarch - rion the pally) also, it was my brother`s 1st time finishing hell!! lucky for us, an ogre axe dropped from baal. matriarch sheena, level 83 zon. lev 24 lightning fury, plaque javelin; lev 22 valkarie. weapon: titan`s revenge. (not upgraded) armour: holy diamond mail boots: infernostride gloves: rare gloves shield: ancient`s pledge (only 57 defense) helm: tal rasha`s death mask. belt: rare belt. rings: rare resistances amulet: +19 resistances as you can see, i didnt have the best of gear. however, apart from the ancients and baal, we found the journey through hell pretty easy. my brother`s gear wasnt much more impressive. his weapon was lycander`s aim (not upgraded). neither my brother nor me had a merc with us.