This may come as a shock to you, but you can have moral values without having a belief in a God. I believe in being nice to others, not doing drugs, not lying or stealing. Why? Because I'm a decent person. Do I need more reason than that?Freemason said:
How exactly does that make sense?
What psyadam said.
I'm Catholic and I don't observe morality to keep God off my back, I do it because it's the decent thing to dopsyadam said:This may come as a shock to you, but you can have moral values without having a belief in a God. I believe in being nice to others, not doing drugs, not lying or stealing. Why? Because I'm a decent person. Do I need more reason than that?
I'm what keeps me in check. I don't need a deity to tell me what's good and bad so why would I need to replace one with something else? Everything that a god can provide I already can provide myself. The only thing that's "greater" than me that I serve is law, common sense and logic.Freemason said:What have you, as an athiest, replaced a religious diety with?
What is it that keeps you in check, gives you guidance, a reason for being?
What is bigger than you, that you believe in?
Nothing. I have no need for deities of any kind. Though I guess I could consider myself that replacement, but being worshipped isn't really the same as worshipping.
Myself. It might be hard to believe, but we aren't all inherently evil and kept from murdering/stealing/etc only by the commands of a god.
This question is fundamentally flawed, as the Hellbird is bigger than all other things by definition. I can not believe in something bigger, because I am already god.
Goofy question. The word "replace" seem like the person had a god then dumped him. They usually don't have one to start off with.Freemason said:
It's called self-guidance, using your wits, wisdom, and following common sense. It's what god wants us to do.
Nothing. I believe in my own abilities to control my life.
In the old days, perhaps. It is no longer might makes right in modern society. Morality is so subjective that there's no possibility of it being set by a god. The Christian morality is completely different from African tribe's morality dictated by their god(s) and countless other societies. The only measurement of morality is society's. Since religions are made by societies, it all comes down to the fact that morality is determined by a general agreement among people. My morality I find is stronger and makes more sense to me than any religious morality and vice versa I'm sure. Morality is not inherent and it does not need to be dictated by "god" (read: religious hierarchy).djIgneo said:And for morals, what is the measure of morals if we don't believe in God? If there is no measurement of what is right and wrong how would we know? If it's based on what society says, then doesn't really come down to might makes right?
Im pretty sure that noone who believes needs the diety to tell them what's good or bad either. This always seems odd to me, peoples idea of what religion is. I wish I could just get inside some peoples heads sometimes (and let you in mine), because theres no way in the world that we can understand each other just verbally explaining it, let alone typing on a forum.Anakha1 said:I don't need a deity to tell me what's good and bad so why would I need to replace one with something else?