A new twist that might work Ok here is my idea. I have not worked all the bugs out of it, and am even thinking about some of it now Ok here it goes My idea is a groupd of untwinked players that also like to duel. We only lvl untwinked, and there is no muling, or trading, except with other untwinked players. It is like a last man standing but the killing goes like this. When we reach act 1 nm we will randomly (later to be determined how) determine which 2 people fight to the death. Loot is required, no pots, no town, and no scrolls. So it could be very beneficial to duel because you will win the others items, or you could die. This will leave 7 people to go through until nm act 4. Once we do the forge, and do diablo, we will allow 4 people to duel, 2 at a time, (also randomly determined) once you duel once, you will have a choice to duel again or not. After act 5 nm we will all go to act 1 nm. here we will have a tournament style fight with it going like this: this is a mock of the full tournament. round 1: 1st person-------]died 2nd person-------]lived 3rd person-------] lived 4th person-------] died 5th person-------] this is one of the people who won the duel after diablo. Either we can pick randomly, or one person can opt to duel. round 2: 2nd person-------] lived 5th person-------] died 3rd person-------] this person was randomly selected or again #2 opted to duel Round 3: final round 2nd:-------] died 3rd:-------] lived and won all Of course there will be a price for the winner, even if not you get a char in hell act 1 with all the wps, and you get to loot all of the bodies, along with the runes from the forges, which wil be also given to someone who kills another, runes will be kept with me if I am not dueling or my partner who is going to start this with me. (he doesnt know it yet lol) So post here with comments or account names if you would like to play.