A Disturbing Story Becomes Even More ****ed Up

Stoutwood

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A Disturbing Story Becomes Even More ****ed Up

Kids of slain mom were drowned, found in appliances
POSTED: 9:29 p.m. EDT, September 24, 2006

Story Highlights
• Preliminary autopsies show three children were drowned, coroner says
• Police say children's decomposing bodies found in washer, dryer
• Tiffany Hall charged with first-degree murder in deaths of Jimella Tunstall, fetus
• Hall, 24, being held in Belleville, Illinois, jail; bail set at $5 million
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EAST ST. LOUIS, Illinois (AP) -- A woman accused of killing a pregnant woman and her fetus told police she drowned the woman's three young children and stuffed them into a washer and dryer at their apartment, an official said Sunday.

Preliminary autopsies on the dead children Sunday appear to show they were drowned, Ace Hart, a deputy St. Clair County coroner, told The Associated Press.

As of Sunday, Tiffany Hall, 24, had not been charged in the children's deaths, but prosecutors on Saturday accused Hall of killing their mother, Jimella Tunstall, 23, and her fetus. The fetus had been cut from her womb, authorities said.

According to Sunday's autopsies, there were no signs of physical abuse or trauma on the children -- ages 7, 2, and 1 -- and toxicology tests were pending "to see if they were poisoned or possibly drugged," Hart said.

"They were not drowned there in the wash machine," Hart stressed.

On Sunday, the community turned to prayer to understand the slayings at a service for the slain family.

"This is an opportunity for people to turn to God," said Debra Kenton, a member of the New Life Community Church. "Who else can explain things like this?"

Authorities suspect Tunstall was slain on or about September 15.

That day, Hall summoned police to a park, saying she had given birth to a stillborn child, Hart said. She was arrested after she told her boyfriend during the baby's funeral that the baby wasn't his and that she had killed the mother to get it, authorities said.

Tunstall's body was found Thursday, and authorities began a furious search for her children. Police said the children were last seen with the Hall on Monday.

Authorities had visited Tunstall's apartment Friday but noticed nothing amiss while looking for photographs of the children for media outlets to publicize in their search, Hart said.

While in custody, Hart says, Hall told investigators she killed the children at another location, then hauled them home and hid them in the washer and dryer.

Hall said he understood why investigators may have overlooked the children during their previous trip to the apartment. "Who would be looking in the washer and dryer?"

By Saturday night, Hart said, "you could find them by the smell."

The oldest, 7-year-old DeMond Tunstall, was found in the dryer and the younger two children -- 2-year-old Ivan Tunstall-Collins and 1-year-old Jinela Tunstall -- in the washer. Two of the children were found nude, the third wearing only underpants, Hart said. (Watch crime scene where cops found children's bodies -- :50)

One by one, coroner Rick Stone declared each child dead a minute apart. Hart had the grim chore of pulling each from the appliance, softly laying them on the floor and zipping them into separate body bags.

Hall remained jailed Sunday on $5 million bond, charged with first-degree murder in Tunstall's death and with intentional homicide of an unborn child.

Meanwhile, stuffed animals continued to mount outside Tunstall's apartment, its door crisscrossed with white evidence tape. There was a white teddy bear and a stuffed race car with DeMond's name.

An autopsy showed that Jimella Tunstall bled to death after sustaining an abdominal wound caused by a sharp object, believed to be scissors, Hart has said. Authorities believe her womb was cut open after she was knocked unconscious.

By all accounts, Hall and Jimella Tunstall were like sisters, survivors in this place defined by crime, poverty, crumbling buildings and potholed roads.

The two were quiet loners who gravitated toward each other at school. They both became teenage mothers.

Tasha McCray, a frequent visitor to the housing complex, says Jimella Tunstall seldom mingled and routinely sat outside on a red plastic crate to watch DeMond walk to his school bus stop.

Relatives say Tunstall grew up with Hall and had let her baby-sit her children. Hall has two children of her own. Illinois State Police Capt. Craig Koehler said they are "safe and sound."

Hall likely will be arraigned Monday on the two charges, each carrying 20 to 60 years or life in prison, prosecutors said. The murder count could be punishable by the death penalty.

DNA tests should determine definitively whether the baby was the one Tunstall was carrying, Hart said.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/24/killed.fetus.ap/index.html
 
Yeah, that happened around here. Unfortunately it seems to be a growing trend here in the Mid-West.

Some people really truly scare me.
 

Dondrei

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Nasty stuff.

article said:
"This is an opportunity for people to turn to God," said Debra Kenton, a member of the New Life Community Church. "Who else can explain things like this?"
Vultures.
 

blu3l1ghtn1ng

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@ dondrei: of all things to pull from this article, you pull that out. But even I had a "wtf" moment there. Let's not turn this into a religious thread.

I would expect Hall's lawyers to say that she is criminally insane. And if she isn't...then she deserves death.
 

Dondrei

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blu3l1ghtn1ng said:
@ dondrei: of all things to pull from this article, you pull that out. But even I had a "wtf" moment there. Let's not turn this into a religious thread.

I would expect Hall's lawyers to say that she is criminally insane. And if she isn't...then she deserves death.
I pulled that one out because it was tangential to the rest. I don't think it's grounds for a religious debate, I'm sure we can all agree that that statement was grossly insensitive and opportunistic regardless of our religious convictions or otherwise.
 

SaroDarksbane

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dondrei said:
I pulled that one out because it was tangential to the rest. I don't think it's grounds for a religious debate, I'm sure we can all agree that that statement was grossly insensitive and opportunistic regardless of our religious convictions or otherwise.
From the article, it sounds like the reporters came to a church that was holding a ceremony, and asked a pastor to comment.
 

WildBerry

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PlagueBearer said:
Because she's bat-**** crazy? Just a guess.
Well, duh.

You obviously haven't hung around a lot with people who have cognitive disorders - i.e. are "bat-****" crazy. It might be pretty difficult, and they might very well act unexpected, but they, as well as any people, have or at least themselves believe that they have reasons for what they're doing. It's whether we can relate to these reasons what their insanity calls to question.

Now, if anyone isn't interested in going where the fence is it at it's lowest... any guesses on the reason?
 

Dondrei

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WildBerry said:
Not that I expect it to be reasonable to our eyes, but any idea as to why she did it?
She was taking the Napisan challenge?

That one mightn't work if you're not Australian.
 

WildBerry

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dondrei said:
That one mightn't work if you're not Australian.
PlagueBearer might've gone over the fence where it was at it's lowest, but you've just gone - dare I say it? - down under it.
 

Stoutwood

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dondrei said:
She was taking the Napisan challenge?

That one mightn't work if you're not Australian.
Crap, Wikipedia can't even help me on this? Explain the joke to us non-Australians please.
 

PFS

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Stoutwood said:
Crap, Wikipedia can't even help me on this? Explain the joke to us non-Australians please.
I', gopoiiing tot go out on a libm here..


Napisan is a product for cleaning clothes, ii'm guessiing their claim is youu can gey ANY sttain out of your clothes andd have tthem returned to whitter than whitte. Thee challenge is proly if yoou can find someththing thata it wont clean they will give you yourr mooney back.

just a guess.
 

StAlbion

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WildBerry said:
PlagueBearer might've gone over the fence where it was at it's lowest, but you've just gone - dare I say it? - down under it.
Do you know what's worse then three dead children in one washer?

One dead child in three washers!
 
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