A Curiosity

Ravenforce3

Diabloii.Net Member
A Curiosity

Something strange happened to me the last couple of days. I've been taking my Frozen Zealot through Act One slowly, mostly due to the fact that Fallen camps are a huge nusance to me. However, I managed to run into the one thing that I though would be my bane through all of Hell: an "Immune to Physical, Immune to Cold" monster. Suprisingly, I took it down with ease (Wraiths...ick...) and I payed it little mind. Today, I stepped into the Cathedral and lo and behold, another Wraith boss pack with a PI/CI leader. I tried to get a screenie, but by the time my fingers fumbled to the Print Screen button, the boss died in the traditional Frost Nova. Ironically, they both shared the same name: Dragon Jade the Howler. How am I taking it down? Does CB work against PI monsters? I know Open Wounds do, but I have no idea. It was almost like it wasn't Immune to Cold at all, as it fell just as fast as the rest of the Wraiths with it. I know it's not my Firebug that follows me around, as he takes much longer to bring something down.

What the hell is going on?
 

lone_wolf

Diablo: IncGamers Member
no idea other then that your OW damage might be the thing that killed him

also do you have any other elementar damasge on your equip??
 

Ravenforce3

Diabloii.Net Member
Actually, no, suprisingly enough. I'd just switch to Vengance and not worry about it, but I found that my AR with it is too pathetic to even worry about it. The funny thing is, I didn't see it bleed. It just went down as if it wasn't immune...I can't figure it out for the life of me.
 

Nightfish

Diabloii.Net Member
Nightfish's Rule #294: If something inexplicable happens, complain only if it's not in your favor.

j/k :lol:

Seriously, I don't know. Maybe he died of old age or boredom. Or he just resigned himself to his fate and played dead.
 

Nightfish

Diabloii.Net Member
I know, but I'm not going to rewrite the sacred nightfish rules so that they fit the current problem. ;) At any rate, I was just pulling your leg.
 
maybe he say you coming and thought 'he looks tough, i dont thinki'll mess with him' and so just fel over and playeddead, but when youd gone he got back up and went ahead fo you and did it again....
 

NSXdreamer

Diabloii.Net Member
Lol I wish the same thing would happen to my wolf, a bunch of regular Wraiths in the forgotten tower f***ed me up pretty good, finally had to go around them after my level 76 might merc w/doom great pole axe died 4 times, and my 2k hp bear and oak sage died at least ten times. Sad part is, I don't think I even scratched them. :p
 

Ravenforce3

Diabloii.Net Member
No, he wasn't getting hit. Their current setup looks like this:

Beast Cadeceus
Tal's Mask
Rare Pally skiller amulet with nice mods
Black Hades (RalOrtThul for resists)
Rare Grim Shield (+1 pally skills, increased block, other gravy mods)
Gore Riders
Laying of Hands
8/11 String
Rare leech rings

Harlequin Crest
Hexfire
Viscurant
Skin of the Vipermagi

Other than Khaleel, I have no way of getting around the boss. However, Khaleel doesn't do that much damage comparitivly and, although he can kill slowly if I hit once to stop their regeneration, the Wraith boss fell too quickly.
 

Mage11

Diabloii.Net Member
What aura were you using?

I could be totally wrong about this, but I know that the Necro skill Lower Resist can break immunities. Is it possible that Conviction can as well (I have a feeling that there were two skills that could achieve that).
 

Ravenforce3

Diabloii.Net Member
With skills, I'm using lvl 23 Holy Freeze with lvl 9 Fanat (does + to paladin skills transfer?) from Beast. Again, I rely on the Cold damage from the Freeze as much as I do on the ed from the scepter/Fanat/CB.
 

LprMan

Diabloii.Net Member
I guess OW has an effect on PI's, because it can't be resisted (at least I think so)

But again what is the weirdest thing here is that everyone seems to have so many new runewords :teeth: Maybe im just jealous

Sorry
 

whomhead

Diabloii.Net Member
Mage11 said:
What aura were you using?

I could be totally wrong about this, but I know that the Necro skill Lower Resist can break immunities. Is it possible that Conviction can as well (I have a feeling that there were two skills that could achieve that).
conviction can most certainly break most immunitties... some monsters have too much cold resist to break because conviction gets a 1/3 penalty for that element they are immune against. meaning, that at slvl 25 (where I believe conviction gets capped), you reduce a CI's resist by ~50%. many CI monsters have cold resist >150%, thus making them truly invulnerable to cold. yikes!
 

Ti-Ben

Diabloii.Net Member
whomhead said:
conviction can most certainly break most immunitties... some monsters have too much cold resist to break because conviction gets a 1/3 penalty for that element they are immune against. meaning, that at slvl 25 (where I believe conviction gets capped), you reduce a CI's resist by ~50%. many CI monsters have cold resist >150%, thus making them truly invulnerable to cold. yikes!
Actually, it's a 1/5 penalty for every -%resist on monsters skills 'cept for Cold Mastery. Which doesn't pierce at all.
 

Kremtok

Diabloii.Net Member
I'm no Paladin expert, but from my experience with Holy Freeze Mercenaries, doesn't the aura affect them regardless of their immunity?
 

LprMan

Diabloii.Net Member
Kremtok said:
I'm no Paladin expert, but from my experience with Holy Freeze Mercenaries, doesn't the aura affect them regardless of their immunity?
Holy Freeze will slow down CI monsters. But even it is unable to slow down some monsters (stygian dolls, frenzytaurs in WSK)
 

whomhead

Diabloii.Net Member
Ti-Ben said:
Actually, it's a 1/5 penalty for every -%resist on monsters skills 'cept for Cold Mastery. Which doesn't pierce at all.
you're right about the 1/5 thing, but i'm quite certain that my avenger watched CI dissapear off of some uniques, but not all. i know that cold mastery for sorcs no longer breaks immunitties, but i'm pretty sure conviction still can as long as the monster doesn't have >130% CR.
 
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