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6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by Coldsmoke, May 16, 2008.

  1. Coldsmoke

    Coldsmoke IncGamers Member

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    6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    I read somewhere that this will not lower the Ilvl of a rare diadem if you are lvl 90+ or something like that, so you can reroll it forever. Is this true?
    Also does it matter if its a gambled or selffound rare diadem?
    Also if its selffound, does the area lvl make any difference?

    I just want to be sure it works, becouse if it does I'm saving those skulls for rerolling:)
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Because diadems get an 18 Ilvl bonus for affixes they never move below the line for good mods to spawn on them, if you use a character with a good level (90 is enough IIRC). The area level where the you got the diadem from doesn't matter. You can also use a gambled/imbued one.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    No, the qlvl of diadems is so high that they can get all rare pre/suffixes at any ilvl, so they can be rerolled forever and still have a chance of turning into something good

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    its either the qlvl or ilvl iirc, I get confused what controls what
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    I don't think it's the Qlvl that has to do with it. Otherwise you could reroll collosus blades and berserker axes forever as well.


     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    It's the magic level that makes it have all suffixes available if you reroll it with a high level character. Otherwise the item level would come down to.. what was it?... 2/3 player level or something like that.

    By the way, I tried such rerolls like 10 times and indeed got +2 skills in some cases. I find it more practical to gather gold and gamble coronets instead of trying skulls rerolls. The skulls are better off used as regular gems in charms rerolls.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    It's both qlvl and mlvl along with a quirk in the alvl calculations. Diadems are special in that due to their high qlvl AND their high magic_level, all affixes are available at any ilvl.

    On most items, it's ilvl and qlvl that determine alvl, but circlet class items have another property (magic_lvl) that changes the alvl calculation process. Circlets, Coronets, and Tiaras have a relatively low magic_level and qlvl and still rely upon ilvl to determine alvl. Diadem's have such a large magic_level with their high qlvl that alvl is always 99 no matter what the ilvl.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Alright, thanks a lot all:p

    I'm going to roll a godly diadem now.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    You could also save yourself the hassle and the skulls, and just make a lvl 8 imbue mule for each white one you find. Pskulls are for LLD jewels (a godly LLD rare jewel will net just as much or more than a godly diadem).
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Ok, so whats the recipe for rolling jewels then? And what stats to look for?
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Rerolling jewels is just as easy as rerolling other rares: 6 pskulls + rare jewel. But sorry, I can't help you with the mods.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Wouldn't then rerolling collosus blades and berserker axes also be good? The alvl will be lower but you also only need alvl56 for the important mods (cruel, master's are the highest alvl that are important iirc and are alvl56).
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    No, because of 1 single word:

    Grief.

    Long answer: Yes, you can get something godly, but chances are it will still get overshadowed by grief, which won't happen for circlets and jewels.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Yes but if you don't play with duped runes or play single player grief is not exactly an option, not to mention the other runewords. I mean maybe if I farm the countess for a month or 2 for several hours a day and cube the runes up I may be able to make grief...
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    I would give 50 griefs for a 4xx ed 40 ias 2 socket BA
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    I suppose you want eth self repair and +20max as well, like "Blood Bite" in the rare showoff thread? ;)

    At any rate, getting a rare circlet to beat shako or griffons will be harder than rolling a decent/good/great/godly LLD rare jewel.

    If you want to know what affixes to look for, then remember that +max/ED or +min/ed jewels doesn't work right in non-weapons. Also remember that most LLD people duel at lvls 9, 18, 29, 30 and a very few at 31. Depends a little on realm.

    Also, use the AS to learn the max for the affixes on a rare jewel. Ask (or just read, I'm sure someone must have started a LLD jewel thread long time ago) around the PvP forum.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Rolling weapons doesn't work because 99% of the time they need to be ethereal to compete with high end runewords, and the ethereal property is not retained.
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    If the ethereal property is not retained (I don't know since I don't reroll eths), then even oath out shadows it. Besides, it's not impossible to make a legit grief, unlike a BotD.



     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    nvm 123123
     
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    Re: 6Pskull rerolling rare diadems

    Though, if you're not relying on the Lo to drop, you'll need ** IIRC HF drops to get the 8 Guls needed to cube one. That will take a while :shocked:.



     

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