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50 pit,andy,meph runs results

Discussion in 'Hardcore' started by vanfanel, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. vanfanel

    vanfanel IncGamers Member

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    50 pit,andy,meph runs results

    Documented my encounters along the way :)

    [size=+2]Pit[/size]
    215% mf
    1 - none
    2 - sander's taboo
    3 - mahim-oak curio,sander's taboo
    4 - none
    5 - none
    6 - nosferatu's coil
    7 - bloodthief, frostburns
    8 - berserker's headgear
    9 - skin of viper magi, cathan's mesh
    10 - lem
    11 - isenhart's case,berserker's hauberk
    12 - trang oul's scales
    13 - flamebellow, sigon's sabot
    14 - none
    15 - none
    16 - none
    17 - none
    18 - none
    19 - none
    20 - none
    21 - none
    22 - none
    23 - none
    24 - iratha's coil
    25 - arctic horn
    26 - jade tan do
    27 - bloodthief
    28 - none
    29 - haemosu's adamant, isenhart's parry
    30 - dark adharent
    31 - none
    32 - angelic sickle
    33 - none
    34 - none
    35 - none

    262% mf
    36 - none
    37 - none
    38 - Arcanna's Deathwand, cathan's seal
    39 - goldwrap,spirit keeper, gravepalm
    40 - bloodletter
    41 - none
    42 - none
    43 - jade tan do, blackbog's sharp
    44 - winhammer
    45 - vidala's barb
    46 - tiamat's rebuke
    47 - sigon's wrap
    48 - none
    49 - none
    50 - isenhart's lightbrand
     
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    vanfanel IncGamers Member

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    [size=+2]Andy[/size]
    mf 262%
    1 - skystrike
    2 - chieftain
    3 - coldsteel eye
    4 - duskkeep
    5 - none
    6 - gleamscythe, infernal sign, angelic halo, isenhart's case
    7 - bladebuckle, sigon's gage
    8 - fleshrender
    9 - none
    10 - deathspade
    11 - cathan's mesh, isenhart's case
    12 - spirit forge
    13 - magefist, sigon's sabot
    14 - soul harvest, pompeii's wrath, titan's revenge
    15 - isenhart's case, isenhart's horns, vidala's barb, tancred's skull
    16 - todasfaelle flamme, the general's tan do li ga
    17 - bloodrise
    18 - none
    19 - none
    20 - stone of jordan
    21 - vidala's barb
    22 - soulflay
    23 - sparkling mail, baezil's vortex, immortal king's detail, isenhart's case
    24 - none
    25 - nokozan relic,isenhart's horns
    26 - none
    27 - gleamscythe,civerb's icon
    28 - face of horror, magnus' skin
    29 - blackhorn's face
    30 - wilhelm's pride
    31 - hawkmail, highlord's wrath
    32 - none
    33 - blood crescent, dark adherent
    34 - bloodfist
    35 - tal rasha's horadric crest
    36 - artic horn
    37 - tancred's crowbill
    38 - berzerker's hatchet
    39 - sigon's wrap
    40 - none
    41 - the ward
    42 - rogue's bow, cathan's seal, isenhart's case
    43 - swordback hold, the minotaur
    44 - swordback hold
    45 - none
    46 - visceratuant, frostburns, bloodfists
    47 - soul harvest, artic horn
    48 - ichorsting, tancred's weird
    49 - crainte vomir, jade talon
    50 - stormstrike
     
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    vanfanel IncGamers Member

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    [size=+2]Meph[/size]
    mf 262%
    1 - none
    2 - none
    3 - none
    4 - none
    5 - bonesnap, dangoon's teaching
    6 - berserker's hauberk
    7 - bloodletter
    8 - the impaler
    9 - none
    10 - none
    11 - skull splitter, naj's circlet
    12 - none
    13 - fleshrender
    14 - sureshrill frost, woestave, tancred's skull
    15 - none
    16 - bveritt keep, guardian angel
    17 - berserker's hatchet
    18 - the reaper's toll, cleglaw's tooth
    19 - spectal shard
    20 - tal rasha's fine spun cloth
    21 - the impaler
    22 - deathspade, boneslayer blade
    23 - sandstorm trek
    24 - the battlebranch
    25 - none
    26 - none
    27 - none
    28 - none
    29 - rogue's bow,isenhart's case, Naj's Circlet
    30 - immortal king's stone crusher
    31 - boneslayer blade
    32 - bloodrise
    33 - none
    34 - chance gaurds
    35 - none
    36 - razortine, harlequin crest
    37 - none
    38 - none
    39 - coif of glory, nagelring
    40 - none
    41 - death's touch, isenhart's lightbrand
    42 - venom ward, artic horn
    43 - endless hail
    44 - none
    45 - none
    46 - blackleach blade
    47 - corpsemourn
    48 - frostburn
    49 - none
    50 - none
     
  4. vanfanel

    vanfanel IncGamers Member

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    some other information
    pit runs - 5-12 min ave time
    andy runs - 3-5 min ave time
    meph runs - 2-4 min ave time
    no mh or other hacks were used.
    - 2 player game with barb giving bo
    - merc had 168% mf gear the whole time.

    I'm not sure how everyone else's runs go but finding and killing meph seemed a whole lot easier than andy for me. Andy's wandering minions at times were much more distracting (mutliple auras like fanat,might...etc) than meph's minions (if there were any). Also finding durance 3 was a whole lot faster than getting to cat 4.
     
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    Ok, I must be doing something wrong...

    You averaged MORE than 1 unique per run over 50 runs with 262 mf.

    I have 250 mf and averaged 1 unique every 6 runs. wtf.
     
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    Luck. He might kill more monsters, superuniques or champions than you.
     
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    Hmmm, not as high as items as I would have thought.

    I might stick with my ESP runs for now with 518% + 144% mf.
     
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    I've been running Andy, Mausolem, Tristram and the Tunnels. I have 435% mf on my Sorceress (not sure on Merc) and after 35 runs I think I'm averaging 3 to 4 uniques per run (mostly junk stuff though). I'm not ladder, so I won't some of the stuff you found. I will say though that I found a Harliquin Crest and Windhammer just crusing around in act II.

    I figure someday I'll get really lucky. For now it's just getting me replacement items in case a "bad thing" happens.

    Masa
     
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    Thanks for the interesting info. I enjoyed your post.
     
  11. nebby

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    Hmm. If he's killing monsters along the way, I'm not quite sure how he's getting Andy done in 3 minutes without any maphack. It usually takes me 10 minutes just to get to her, but of course I'm not palying a sorc so I actually have to kill things along the way (no tele).

    Nice summary. Think I'll quite the stupid Pit runs now, I've yet to get anything really good from them (of course my mf is only 145%, though, so its not surprising).
     
  12. vanfanel

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    Yes, this is all on hc ladder (useast).

    For andy runs I tele straight to cat4 skipping all monsters. When I'm in the final room I usually try and focus on killing only andy since all others die when she dies. The only time I do kill the surrounding monsters is when they have killer auras like might/fanat that act on everything in the room including andy. I can probably get to cat4 in less than a minute. I use wizzy with a pair of fast cast rings. I was also using viper's magi for even more fcr but then I found skulder's and switched over. :) Killing andy herself doesn't take that long either with meteor. The hard part is keeping my merc alive from her poison. I try and make andy focus hitting me since I can pop potions on myself a lot easier.

    She may appear to drop a lot of uniques in my runs but virtually everything there can be found on nm or normal so imho it wasn't really worth it. Also make note that this was a 2-player game so drops 'should' be more than single player.

    In the end finding and killing meph was much easier/faster than andy and the drops were a whole lot better. Based on these results I'll probably continue to run meph and pits.

    If I get motivated enough I'll try running other places and report my findings :)
     
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    the ting about pitting is generally u need to have 5 or more people in game to get more drops from the normal monsters. from my experiance its the random monsters in the pit, not eve bosses or minions, that have dropped the best stuff.
     
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    I dunno, I've been Pitting in bigger games recently just to lvl my Javazon and the drops have been horrible. I was at least finding a few things when I was soloing. My friend who found Tal's Armor and Ber doing Pit also suggested that I run it solo if I was only in it for the items... larger games for exp.
     
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    Very nice report, thank you!

    I've found Harle and a Bonehew from Andy, so she CAN drop good things too, and is by far the safest "boss-dropper" if one's char isn't all that hot on Meph.

    A tip to all the Andy runners: If you think your Merc dies too much to poison, try and give him an antidote potion right before you engage her. That will raise his max poison defense as well as his poison res for 30 seconds. It will make a difference.

    I've also contemplated trying some Meph runs, but my char is a bit on the weak side. Is it alot scarier teleporting Durance than Catacombs? It's NOT fun when you teleport through a Mana burn pack, packing Might/Fana/Extra strong. And it won't matter if you hvae 300% FCR if you are unlucky, especially as the minions also get mana burn in 1.10. What I wonder is: Would a 2700hp (10% DR) sorc with get out of such a pack of maulers in time?

    Thanks again, enjoyable post and nice formatted too!
     
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    Good tip!
    I'm going to use that from now on!
    Just got my mf% CL/orb sorc ready for andy runs and poor old Ip is sick of getting poisoned to death continuously.
     
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    The sorc I used had bo which brought her hp to just about 2000. I didn't have any problems tele in durance through all my runs (70 fcr). Only once did I get jammed in the wrong crowd with mana burn and some other aura's and a quick juvie and tele got me out fine. I think my life dropped to a little less than half on 1 or maybe 2 hits. I don't use ES or shiver armor either.

    I thought teleporting through durance wasn't too bad overall compared to cats. The areas in durance 2 are nice and large as opposed to cat 2 and cat 3. In the catacombs there are many narrow places and corners where I sometimes get hung up teleporting when my mouse is in a black area. I don't have that problem in durance since all the rooms are large and connected.

    btw, thanks for the antidote tip...I totally forgot about that :)
     
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    A sorc with ~1k hp, EShield, and max block should have very little trouble teleporting Meph. You will once in a great while get clipped by a Mauler or Doll, but mana burn is the only real problem.
     
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    Yup. Problem is; I don't have max block... 2700 hp and 10% DR would have to do it anyway I guess.

    Oh, what's Mephs most dangerous attack? And should I use the merc, as in: Will he live through Maph?
     
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    B.net wants you to build an isenhart pala~~!!!

    @Dire_wulf... What kind of math are you doing? I'm counting 41 uniques in 50 andy runs, less than that for the pit/meph.
     

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