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[Skagen]

+4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Hey !

Ive been trying to gather some PDR gear to make a survivable sorc, and i recently traded for a circlet with +2 skills and 21 PDR got lucky and got it socketed with 2 sockets, and had already gambled a +2 sorc skills 25 PDR amulet.

So here i am .. +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR, and i dont really know what to do with it...

Dont get me wrong i know what gear more or less to fill out the rest

Gerkes Sanctuary
Gladiators Bane
Natures Peace
and maybee some Safety crafts..

But what type of sorc should i make with all this ?? Does anyone have some fun idears ?

Ive been playing a dual dream zeal sorc up til now and ive been having a lot of fun with it, but wanted to make it more durable... problem is i cant just add the PDR gear to her, since Dream is in the healm slot, and without the circlet i loose the biggest chunk of PDR i have..

So what should i make to take advantage of this setup ?

Any and all advice/idears/own experiences/musings and so on are welcome

Chers
~Skagen

 

[DH Amazon]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

So what should i make to take advantage of this setup ?

Any and all advice/idears/own experiences/musings and so on are welcome

Chers
~Skagen

Those items are good for one build I played in prev ladder. You seems to like melee builds, so its perfect in that way too. You have cannot frozen already in items and easy to get max block with that shield.

Build was nova sorc using crescent moon as melee weapon. So max nova. L-mastery and rest to enchant+synergies.

It was nice to telejump next to nihlathak, cast novas to make some room and melee him to dead if nova couldnt make it.

CM has -35L, so even lvl25-30 nova is effective when you can stand middle of group. Max warmth keeps mana bulb up and you melee bosses/hard ones.
CM has also ignore target, so its perfect for melee sorcs too. With phase blade, you you need additonal 30 ias for max speed. LoH gloves and one ias jool. Add hotspurs and you have very good/fun nihlathak/dkey runner.

Wizpike is good/fast melee weapon too, as you might have resist problems with those items. At least its good 2nd weapon to fix tele speed and resist problems. I used this as backup weapon with my nova-enchant sorc.
Wizpike melee speed 27ias -11frame, 50ias 10frame and 89ias for 9frame. With ias jool in it and 35 (Loh+ias jool) you hit that 10frame speed, its fast enough. Good for spamming novas too, but CM much better in areas where max resist are not needed.

Other dagger (fleshripper is best if you hunt bosses, or do full game travi runs) is good too. But you might have resist problem with it. Its same speed as wizpike for melee purpose, so same break points. Change to goreboots if you make this kind of crushing blow-melee sorc. You can make both in same build, just keeps some additional items in stash.

Thunderbelt is nice addition to your items. As you can hunt souls with enchanted wizpike when you got bored playing with nihlathak.

I tell more, if you are interested, lets wait for other ideas.

 

[lumpor]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Energy shield. At level 40, it makes only 5% of incoming damage go to life. And (5% of an enemy attack -60) will most likely end up in negative numbers.

Max telekenisis + 40 es after prebuff and some warmth might be a good start.

You might also want to sacrifice some pdr for resists

 

[MalVeauX]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Heya,

Resists are going to be a big problem for you as a sorc though going to use so much PDR. There's just no way for a sorc to really maximize her PDR potential to make it actually good while also keeping her resists healthy (a lighting bolt kills you and it's not funny). Sorcs have low life pools, so even if your PDR is decent, but not optimized, you will take damage and with such a low pool, lots of damage still. Instead of two hits to lights out, it may be more like 4 or 5 hits. Your spells that are spammable will hurt as they are going to be slow and if you're getting beat on, you'll need massive hit recovery or you'll spend a lot of time in recovery animation and not casting. If you use a timmered spell, you're fine (though hit recovery is still a big deal).

You'll probably need to lose some PDR options to get resists. And I would not mix this with mana shield. I'm not sure about the formula, but I think the damage will eat mana shield first before the PDR kicks in on it. Though I'm not sure. Still, you shouldn't need mana shield.

Build options... well, a huge static will help keep things easier to kill, which helps when your cast rate is low. Combine this with glacial spike. Freeze 'em. Then static the room with a high level static. In hell, it's limited to 50%, so a few zaps should do it. From there, spam nova to finish the job. You have enough skill points to grab a decent level Enchant too for those light immunes. Crecent moon is certainly a good idea as mentioned above. You could build up an enchant and then cast it using demon limb to save 20 skill points and just max synergies and have room for static in the build.

Cheers,

 

[McCain123]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Not sure about the rest of your gear and your choice of spells, but 60 PDR just from Helm and Amu sounds like a Nihlatak Runner. The Snakes poison clouds get nullified somewhere arround that number, so if you focus on dealing with Nihlataks CE with the rest of your gear, you should have a decent runner.

 

[lumpor]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Mal, it's good that energy shield comes before pdr. Energy shield takes away 95%, and the little number that is left will easily be taken care of by pdr. In fact, you can unequip the gbane, get a guardian angel with a vex, venom grip gloves, a wizpike, tgods, an ohm in gerkes and you're more or less all set.

Anya + charms + wizspike + gerkes + scinilating jewel in wizspike nets you max resists

Ga + venom grip + tgods + ohm + vex gives you 95% to all resists

Amulet and circlet suffixes + double sol gives you enough pdr with es, and if you're wearing dual natures peace it's overkill

I know resists don't affect es, but sometimes a mana burner comes etc.

Build:

Max es, telekenisis, frozen orb

1 in static field, warmth, cold mastery and shiver armor

Rest into warmth and cold mastery

That's almost immortality

 

[Skagen]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Thanks for the input guys, and as has allready been divulged by some people, the obvious route is max telekinese and ES and screw resists, since ES will go before resists anyway, and the PDR will take care of any spillover damage, only thing to worry about is mana burners and poison damage, and if you look at gladiators bane and treks youll see some nice poison resist mods and duration modifiers.. so thats more or less irrelevant.

What to use to kill with though ? cant excatly bore diablo to death.. i mean being "immortal" or close to it is nice.. but if you cant punch holes in wet paper towel whats the point ?

Seing as it will be very durable build I could go with some of the more close and personal options, such as Enchant + Crushing blow maybee use last wish for lots of CB.. or use passion for zeal spamming (again) or a different approach and go with Nova ?

Has anyone made a character like this ? what worked ? and what diddnt ? any and all advice is still greatly appreciated..

Cheers
~Skagen

 

[DH Amazon]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Has anyone made a character like this ? what worked ? and what diddnt ? any and all advice is still greatly appreciated..

Cheers
~Skagen

I have done crushing blow melee sorc, those work nicely. I used fleshripper (as its faster than phase) and has better mods to hit bosses better.

For crushing blow boots+dagger is enough and use merc with crushing blow too. Like Guillaume+Duress+ReapersToll. Or give him Gladiators bane too if you go after Nihlathak. Reaper is nice, extra slow, extra damage and removes immunes. Psysical+Fire immune is quite common in travi, Reaper fix that problem.

Good target for this kind of crushing blow sorc is full game travincal and full game mephisto+council there.

You don't have enough points to make nova-variant viable. I leveled mine to lvl93 and still 2 points short for full build and thats was without energyshield.

But that crush version works with manashield. You have enough points to max both shield+enchant+synergies. Just don't put too much in energy to avoid mana burners, maybe better with life+max block and recast shield when burners took it away. Max warmth helps a lot with manashield, max warmth gives you free tele, so no need for insight merc.


Another (just for fun, no reward) good target is full game ancients for crush build. Those give feedback if you have some problem with your build.

 

[Neuuubeh]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

Thanks for the input guys, and as has allready been divulged by some people, the obvious route is max telekinese and ES and screw resists, since ES will go before resists anyway, and the PDR will take care of any spillover damage, only thing to worry about is mana burners and poison damage, and if you look at gladiators bane and treks youll see some nice poison resist mods and duration modifiers.. so thats more or less irrelevant.

If I were you I'd either go Damage reduce all the way (physical + magic), or ES all the way (huge mana pool). Combining both cant be good - you will have a low mana pool for ES, and low damage reduce for when ES eats up thru all your mana.
I've been collecting some damage reduce gear myself, still no idea what character to make with it . Kinda looking at barbarian or assassin myself.

 

[McCain123]

Re: +4 sorc skills and 60 PDR .. but what to do with it ?

What to use to kill with though ? cant excatly bore diablo to death.. i mean being "immortal" or close to it is nice.. but if you cant punch holes in wet paper towel whats the point ?

Modify this to your needs. :whistling: