3 orgsets in under 20 minutes
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BobTheWarrior
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Details please :grin:
What's your setup, how did you do it so quickly?
Lillith tends to be the most difficult to deal with, if you killed her with ease, just do the same thing against the big 3.
What's your setup, how did you do it so quickly?
Lillith tends to be the most difficult to deal with, if you killed her with ease, just do the same thing against the big 3.
spigot
Diabloii.Net Member
20 rs
20 sm
20 ce
20 skm
1 sr
1 in decrep
1 dv
1 revive
adding to gm now.
Um'd Shako
Mara's
AoKL/Homunc (about to get a 5 os zerker for my beast, then i will have boneflame/aokl and beast homunc on switch)
ravenfrost
soj
trang gloves
arach
enigma
marrows
torch
anni
2 summon skillers
merc
Ber Ber giant skull
eth fort
eth thresher infinity
Game plan for minor ubers. Checked game had urdars. waited for game to perm. Opened portals. Grabbed ~5 urdars. Wiped the floor with Duriel in >10 seconds. Tele'd to lilith. Wiped floor in >20 seconds (merc died to poison, but lots of corpses to CE). Grabbed more urdars, tele'd to izzy, killed all OKs nearby then wiped floor with him in >10 seconds again. Rinsed and repeat = 3 orgsets in ~ 20 minutes!
I think I'll do ok with the proper ubers, just wanted to see what others experiences were.
20 sm
20 ce
20 skm
1 sr
1 in decrep
1 dv
1 revive
adding to gm now.
Um'd Shako
Mara's
AoKL/Homunc (about to get a 5 os zerker for my beast, then i will have boneflame/aokl and beast homunc on switch)
ravenfrost
soj
trang gloves
arach
enigma
marrows
torch
anni
2 summon skillers
merc
Ber Ber giant skull
eth fort
eth thresher infinity
Game plan for minor ubers. Checked game had urdars. waited for game to perm. Opened portals. Grabbed ~5 urdars. Wiped the floor with Duriel in >10 seconds. Tele'd to lilith. Wiped floor in >20 seconds (merc died to poison, but lots of corpses to CE). Grabbed more urdars, tele'd to izzy, killed all OKs nearby then wiped floor with him in >10 seconds again. Rinsed and repeat = 3 orgsets in ~ 20 minutes!
I think I'll do ok with the proper ubers, just wanted to see what others experiences were.
sirwhere
Diabloii.Net Member
you mean for a nec, no? I usually make short work of all the 3 minibosses with a frenzy babooster of mine :smiley:
Actually.. sometimes I die to iron maiden in izual's den.. LOLOLOL
illestkhmai
Diabloii.Net Member
Isn't the aura level 20? Requiring 21 to override, although that's still impossible with infinity.
Mini ubers are like fallens in normal act1 for a summoner. Uber Three, on the other hand, is a different story. If u plan on bringing a merc, stick him with the following:
p kiras um'ed
Eth Coh
Obedience
grab as many urdars as u can and remember to feed merc pots. Decrep the bosses, dim vision the near by minions. Telestack on boss, run back and watch'em die.
p kiras um'ed
Eth Coh
Obedience
grab as many urdars as u can and remember to feed merc pots. Decrep the bosses, dim vision the near by minions. Telestack on boss, run back and watch'em die.
bogie
Diabloii.Net Member
The gear and equipment are nice to have, but without some sort of strategy as to what your going to do once you do get in there, you might encounter some problems.
Personally, I always prefer to immediately tele from the portal to the north-east corner of uber trist to get my bearings. Then I follow the edge of the map counter clockwise, and about midway down the east wall of the map, jump out and entice uber meph away from the others.
If you catch meph with all your summons out, he wont summon his personal skeleton army, the only reason I can think of is that the game is tricked into thinking your skeles count as mephs skeles, and as it reckons there are 20+ minions on the field, it doesn't order meph to raise up more
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After Mephy falls, there isnt much else to do, just pull out baal from diablo, and terror his minions away from him WHILE keeping him decriptified
Rinse and repeat for diablo, and enjoy your torch.
Personally, I always prefer to immediately tele from the portal to the north-east corner of uber trist to get my bearings. Then I follow the edge of the map counter clockwise, and about midway down the east wall of the map, jump out and entice uber meph away from the others.
If you catch meph with all your summons out, he wont summon his personal skeleton army, the only reason I can think of is that the game is tricked into thinking your skeles count as mephs skeles, and as it reckons there are 20+ minions on the field, it doesn't order meph to raise up more
.After Mephy falls, there isnt much else to do, just pull out baal from diablo, and terror his minions away from him WHILE keeping him decriptified
Rinse and repeat for diablo, and enjoy your torch.
jkra
Diabloii.Net Member
Looks good but I would make your merc equipment more resist focused. Definitely switch out the fort for a Coh. And possibly the Giant Skull for a high Kiras. Crushing blow is nice, but survival is a priority for your merc. The best resist setup would be Obedience, Coh, and Kiras (Obedience has crushing blow).
Btw, I assume you can get a Coh and high Kira's easily. 2 bers in a Giant Skull? Wow, you must be rich.
Btw, I assume you can get a Coh and high Kira's easily. 2 bers in a Giant Skull? Wow, you must be rich.
spigot
Diabloii.Net Member
Got lucky selling a very high anni early on in the ladder and nabbed about 15 hrs for it, they've been steadily diminishing ever since! My merc has maxed res in hell, meph's conviction aura is the only thing I can see him having a problem with, and to be honest it doesn't really matter too much if he dies, once the urdars are telestacked next to him, I reckon he'll go down pretty quickly (18 Urdars should be enough!). I can definitely see the point in swapping out the polearm as mephs conviction is going to override the merc's anyhoo, and obedience sounds like a good idea, I think I might swap out the Fort for a CoH as well, I have a really nice bugged armor I found the other day to make it in, its probably actually more useful than the fort overall anyways, I just like the style factor of using a 4041 defense fort (9 from absolute perfection). Actually to make things easier it might be worth me swapping out the gskull (which is worn to provide the strength for the fort + the cb and dr from the bers) for a kiras, anyone know how much a perfect res one goes for? I guess I should probly check the trade values.
Thanks for the advice tactically as well, that was going to pretty much gonna be my strategy, but I wasn't going to bother terroring away minions, I was going to tele on top of one and start a CE chain for increased damage.
Thanks for the advice tactically as well, that was going to pretty much gonna be my strategy, but I wasn't going to bother terroring away minions, I was going to tele on top of one and start a CE chain for increased damage.
bruticus
Diabloii.Net Member
others have given good advice on setup; it can be done as cheap as Guillaume's, Obedience, Eth Shaft, but resists are VERY useful against Meph (Kira's, CoH).
i always tele to the top corner, and walk my way around the outer edge of the map. once you get to the opposite (lower right) edge of the map, you'll probably run into Meph.
Decrepify and your choice of DV or Terror for minions. you can try to tele on top of minions to start a CE chain, but you may find that bodies disappear very quickly in Uber Trist, leaving you with no ammo for CE.
if speed is your thing, you'll need more than 5 Urdars against Meph. Diablo and Baal can be killed with your CB merc alone.
if you're planning on taking your time in there, you should have some hard points in Raise Mage. Raise Poison mages to stop Uber health regeneration, which is very fast. nothing worse than slivering Meph, only to leave the job unfinished and come back to him fully regenerated. a level 35 Poison Mage can gives a 6 minute poison duration. priceless if you need to reraise your army.
hope that's helpful! g'luck in there.
i always tele to the top corner, and walk my way around the outer edge of the map. once you get to the opposite (lower right) edge of the map, you'll probably run into Meph.
Decrepify and your choice of DV or Terror for minions. you can try to tele on top of minions to start a CE chain, but you may find that bodies disappear very quickly in Uber Trist, leaving you with no ammo for CE.
if speed is your thing, you'll need more than 5 Urdars against Meph. Diablo and Baal can be killed with your CB merc alone.
if you're planning on taking your time in there, you should have some hard points in Raise Mage. Raise Poison mages to stop Uber health regeneration, which is very fast. nothing worse than slivering Meph, only to leave the job unfinished and come back to him fully regenerated. a level 35 Poison Mage can gives a 6 minute poison duration. priceless if you need to reraise your army.
hope that's helpful! g'luck in there.
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SnickerSnack
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 3 orgsets in under 20 minutes
I don't understand. Don't you have to do (at least) three separate games in order get all three organs? When you cube a keyset, aren't you given a random portal?
Jolokia
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 3 orgsets in under 20 minutes
... Granted that you're able to kill the mini-übers :tongue:
The part I bolded above is true. However, there can only be one active portal to each of the mini-übers in the same game. This, in other words, means that if you save 3 keysets (3x3 keys) and cube all 3 sets in the same game, you're always guaranteed to have a complete organ-set.
... Granted that you're able to kill the mini-übers :tongue:
Re: 3 orgsets in under 20 minutes
I presume that you use clay a golem, decrep and some cold dmg vs über Meph. If you dont' t well...
Some times ago i ran Ãœbers with my psn/summon necro. And when i saw meph i hit a wall. He just instantly killed my merc so i lost my might and thorns. Well, then just rescure merc, eh? Yes. But when i continued a horrible scream appears. Uhh, must had been my merc. This continued. Always, ALWAYS he killed my merc first. Why didnt he take one urdar or even my loyal clay golem to its target? Hell knows. After 500k gold had disappeard from my stash i had to call for help.
Intresting thing is that i have runned Ãœbers 3 times earlier. No problem. Meph died under 20 secs. But this time i could see how there was one pixel in his lifebar. One pixel. I stood there about a minute along with my urdars and hoped that that the one pixel would turn to zero. No. He just allways regenerated his helth back and when my summons expired i had to go on my way to Durance of Hate lvl 1-2.
But also noticed that before teleing right next to him you should teleport NEAR to him becausse if you tele on top of him, he takes your merc and omg. But teleing near you can summon a clay golem to keep him busy and then lead your army to the slaughter.
Bwt im PSN/summon so my summons aint so strong as pure summoner would have. So maybe these are just my problems:wink2:
And i had some serious spelling problems, eh?:scratch:
I presume that you use clay a golem, decrep and some cold dmg vs über Meph. If you dont' t well...
Some times ago i ran Ãœbers with my psn/summon necro. And when i saw meph i hit a wall. He just instantly killed my merc so i lost my might and thorns. Well, then just rescure merc, eh? Yes. But when i continued a horrible scream appears. Uhh, must had been my merc. This continued. Always, ALWAYS he killed my merc first. Why didnt he take one urdar or even my loyal clay golem to its target? Hell knows. After 500k gold had disappeard from my stash i had to call for help.
Intresting thing is that i have runned Ãœbers 3 times earlier. No problem. Meph died under 20 secs. But this time i could see how there was one pixel in his lifebar. One pixel. I stood there about a minute along with my urdars and hoped that that the one pixel would turn to zero. No. He just allways regenerated his helth back and when my summons expired i had to go on my way to Durance of Hate lvl 1-2.
But also noticed that before teleing right next to him you should teleport NEAR to him becausse if you tele on top of him, he takes your merc and omg. But teleing near you can summon a clay golem to keep him busy and then lead your army to the slaughter.
Bwt im PSN/summon so my summons aint so strong as pure summoner would have. So maybe these are just my problems:wink2:
And i had some serious spelling problems, eh?:scratch:
SnickerSnack
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 3 orgsets in under 20 minutes
Thanks Jolokia. I don't think I'll have much trouble aside from Izzy's OKs, and I've got a demon arch for them.
Thanks Jolokia. I don't think I'll have much trouble aside from Izzy's OKs, and I've got a demon arch for them.
ISawYouTry
Diabloii.Net Member
Re: 3 orgsets in under 20 minutes
Couple things from my end (sorry if being repetitive):
If you happen to let too many minions summon, try to CE and then keep the diablo guys, they are imune to all but physical.
Presummons are ftw. Raise some skeletons with max possible skill level, and then switch gear and go get urdars/snakes. Pretty good if you are worried about many dying.
Try (imo) to take out meph first unless you plan to do guber for exp. lure him up top or down to bottom of map and he will be ez as pie I like pie.
Check quickly after tele'ing next to an uber (not on top) to see if all your minons are attacking it, if not, rectract and tele to them again
Recast decrypt(ubers) and terror on minions as much as possible, :]
Oh, and gl bro, and real specific q's *isawyoutry / *isawyoutry3 on east
Couple things from my end (sorry if being repetitive):
If you happen to let too many minions summon, try to CE and then keep the diablo guys, they are imune to all but physical.
Presummons are ftw. Raise some skeletons with max possible skill level, and then switch gear and go get urdars/snakes. Pretty good if you are worried about many dying.
Try (imo) to take out meph first unless you plan to do guber for exp. lure him up top or down to bottom of map and he will be ez as pie
I like pie.Check quickly after tele'ing next to an uber (not on top) to see if all your minons are attacking it, if not, rectract and tele to them again
Recast decrypt(ubers) and terror on minions as much as possible, :]
Oh, and gl bro, and real specific q's *isawyoutry / *isawyoutry3 on east
Re: 3 orgsets in under 20 minutes
I had more luck killing them using life tap as my main curse to keep my merc alive period, mostly for diablo as he's just nasty. Decrep is fine with baal and meph I think.
and terror is absolutely amazing for the surrounding guys. Not sure if people said that yet, but wow its effective.
I had more luck killing them using life tap as my main curse to keep my merc alive period, mostly for diablo as he's just nasty. Decrep is fine with baal and meph I think.
and terror is absolutely amazing for the surrounding guys. Not sure if people said that yet, but wow its effective.