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  1. hammerjimjnr

    hammerjimjnr Diabloii.Net Member

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    2h zealot

    Im assuming someone has probably tried this and was wondering how effective it was. Could not see one in the guides (apologies if there is one there) although some stuff in the single player forum suggested boosting blessed aim as opposed to holy shield is probably a sensible option, therefore skills maxed being zeal, fanat, sac and blessed aim and weapon being upped ribby or obedience or something similar.

    Any experience with this type of build greatly appreciated :) Thanks
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    I had a think about this too just as a random 'fun' build to try. I made a 2 handed death decapitator charger last ladder and its the most fun PvP char ive ever used.

    Ive currently got a good Zealot that im considering using a token on once I get hold of the right weapon. Looking at an IAS calculator, it seems there is only one sensible option for weapon.

    Botd War Pike. :D

    Only 70% IAS is needed to reach 5 frame zeal (as in 5 hits per second, max with 1 hand weap is 4 frame zeal, 6.2 hits per second). Botd already gives 60% IAS so only highlords ammy would be needed to cruise past the max IAS.

    As soon as I get hold of a botd war pike ill let you know. I can imagine doing baalruns may be a pain with it, as def and res would probably be quite low, but normal playing about would be great. The thought of doing Zeal with a war pike makes me smile inside, lol.
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    I have one 2hd zealot with this new ladder. Using both Reaper's Toll and Obedience. Reaper's kill faster, so I mainly use that.

    I use Obedience at start of game to trigger enchant, then give it to merc and take Reaper's back.

    I use Dracul's Gloves too, those works quite nicely together with Reaper's even both triggers curses. That 5% change to trigger Life Tap and 33% to trigger Decrepify works nicely while killing monsters. Safe and fast killings.

    Extra points I put to Vengeance (1-point) and those resist auras (passive bonus to get higher max resist). Decrepify is not enough to kill all PI, so I needed Vengeance.

    edited: Dracul's


    22 ias for 6/6/6/6/10 zeal (if fana 26 or below). With fana 27, only 20 ias is needed, then that HL is perfect.

    Using rare pala amu at the moment, I have pala torch, but no anni or skillers, so I can't reach lvl27 fana yet.



     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    What frame zeal do you get using Reapers Toll? Any other IAS items? I assume youre using HL ammy anyway.


    P.S. Its Draculs gloves, not draculas, this is Diablo, not Halloween. :thumbup:



     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    I'm on my way to make one. I'm going with obedience as main weapon, reaper on merc. Merc is defiance and I'm going to use a stone armor.

    I don't think this will be very easy to play, even at 1 player games, but it sure is different.
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    i'm currently at lvl 20 with mine. i plan on using reapers as my end game weapon. i've found quite a few of the "crappy" spears/polearms so i'm going with them over swords/maces. so far so good. after i got zeal, he's pretty unstoppable.

    i've pretty well decided on gear, but i have a question, how important is fhr? zeal being uninterruptable means i wont have to worry about it while attacking (right?), but is it important for when i'm walking around? i'd pretty much decided to see what i have as i go and try to hit the closest bp.
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    i now got oath champ sword 311, reaper 240 and obedience GPA... decisions decisions
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    All of those do enough damage. Try them all. Different requirements are no problems anymore as we have respects/tokens.

    Good reference point is eth Reaper's for merc and normal Reaper's for char (Forty and Guillaume for both chars). With that setup you do enough damage, so you can pick holy freeze merc *).


    With Reaper's you can play more aggressively, as Decrepify curse slows monsters and they do less damage too. And it's easier to keep merc alive too.
    And its easier to choose items for other slots as weapon already gives huge life leech.Open socket is big plus too.


    *) This ladder I still use might merc, as I don't have forty's or eth reapers yet.
    Last ladder I had (2x forty etc... godly items) so I used holy freeze merc. It was still fast enough
    for full games. Those ice bolts from chilling armors and holy freeze merc were so effective that I didn't pay any attention to fhr break points.



     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    I've got a great 2 hand biuld use etoomb and make a wolf ( hartside runs from pala forum lol )
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    ok so I tried the oath sword and boy, it's my coolest-looking character BY FAR. With stone scarab husk, crown of thieves and that long shadowy blade he looks like King Aragorn.

    I'm not taking out the sword, no sireee. I'll pop obedience on switch when I need the crushing blow and that's it (merc using it right now, until he's 75 for reaper).

    Just got to hell A1 and resists are kind of lacking. I could use a torch.. lol. Right now the 100 life, gozu swing speed and 26% leech are enough to keep him alive, but I get the feeling the ouchy bosses looming are going to make him run to town sooner or later!! Still, he takes care of the monsters at a decent pace. Keep in mind he has no crushing blow and only 25% deadly strike from highlords (lev 70 at moment). Yeah I know, gear is WAY suboptimal :) But I like his looks right now and if I'm going to win, I might as well do it in STYLE lol.

    It's really a fun character. People asked to buy my sword already ahahah.
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    I'll be doing one as soon as I make Death :D
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    Death is the strongest weapon pvm wise but no ias. I was thinking ebotdcb or something like that.


     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    If I had a Zod, maybe. Thing is, you barely need any IAS (only 50) for the last bp with Zeal and Fanat. I don't mind sacrificing Fort for Treachery considering the builds already huge off-skill ED and the 90%+ DS and 100% CB i'll get when using Death :)
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    sigon glove + other and highlords should do the trick. For the sword I'm weilding, 19% ias total is enough :) (I got 100% at the moment lol)
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    well, he's in hell act 3 now and merc just started using reapers. Far sturdier than I thought he would be... 8.2k defense was enough to tank the annoying mana-leeching spectres while I whacked at them with vengance. The AR is a bit low (4.3k), but I seem to have no trouble hitting stuff. Resists are ok for fire and bad on the rest, but with thundergod and ravenfrost, it's no big deal. Life is lowish too (1.3k), but is enough for most things, as long as I don't get impatient. By the way, for the first time in 10 years of D2 I WALK, instead of run, from monster to monster.

    gear at moment
    crown of thieves
    stone armor (1.7k def)
    highlords
    oath 311 champion sword
    thundergod belt
    leech/raven rings
    laying gloves
    gore rider boots

    Hoping to upgrade to Death colossus sword asap :)
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    Can one of you guys try an eth Botd War Pike as I suggested earlier on?

    Its v easy to hit the 5 frame attack breakpoint with it, and its the most damage of any weapon by far. Add in HL, Guillaumes and Gore Riders and youll have 65% DS and 50% CB too. Apart from res I dont see any problem with that build, and its certainly one ill have a go with at some point. :)
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    give me one on SP HC and i would :D
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    Check out my guide man, its completely modern and optimized, with gameplay instructions and videos inside! http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=760042

    And on the weapon: i tried both botd wp and death cs, and for some reason botd "felt" like the bigger damage dealer and even did cs runs faster, even though it has smaller damage on paper(death setup wasnt completely optimised though, used gores instead of war travs, but thats not a biggie).
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    I would certainly expect a botd war pike to be the much bigger dam dealer. Its barely possible to reach 5 frame attack with most 2 handed weapons, never mind one with as stupid damage as a war pike (200-1350 or something like that?).

    OMG - I just looked at the dam your char does with a botd war pike - 6k-37k...! LOL. Thats 108k damage per second WITHOUT deadly strike. Adding HL + Guillaumes + Gores works out at ~180k dam per sec. I dont know of any other char with any skills that could possible deal that much raw damage...?

    And as for that rare pike - http://i42.tinypic.com/2885con.jpg, does that weapon actually exist...? If so, where? Haha. Literally the best rare weapon ive set my eyes on in ~9yrs of playing D2. :D
     
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    Re: 2h zealot

    Death runeword is indestructable so no need for a zod rune. Also very cheap and no zod required to make death either :)

    So edeathz is the most powerful 1h weapon in pvm. Griefz is the most powerful 1h weapon in pvp. But yes there are reasons for that due to its calculations of total damage per shot on monster.


     

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