2019 Spring RFL Sign-up and Running Thread: 2nd Round

[Gripphon]

@ffs

What I meant is we compare our best rings, not the number of them. Sweet spot is between 170-186 MF for highest drop odds according to german calculator, so ideally anything above 170 to also have better odds at facets.

 

[EatSleepDiablov2]

Let's compare rare rings at the end of RFL to see who got better deal!

Dont bother. While I am squarely in the HR desert as of now (i.e. one qualifier in 389 runs with 55% hork) , I am sitting on a treasure trove of ring loot. One such example:

Spoiler: Behold

Order Coil
Ring
Required Level: 60
Fingerprint: 0x3df2bb3b
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Strength
+3 to Energy
Level 1 Attract (18/22 Charges)

Of course, one must wait until lvl 60 for such goodness, but imagine the toons you can build this around.

Available for trade, BTW. I need chippies badly.

 

[sir_cyclops]

@ffs isn’t a pheonix likely better than 4 facet shield?!

 

[ffs]

Facet shield is higher damage than Phoenix for any class except Sorc (she has FM and + fire skill damage is only additive with it). But Phoenix has the awesome aura of course. In fact I'm taking a little break from Trav and running the numbers for various setups for Assassin, which is already surprising. Will share it in my recent mat thread in a bit when I'm done.

EDIT: Here.

 

[art_vandelay]

We are currently living in a world where Phoenix is a poor man's option

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On the topic of running: I realized yesterday that I was using Silo's Run Counter as if I was measuring average time only. That is after ending a run and restarting it I opened the character and immediately S&E. Sadly I didn't realize that the total time kept running through that. So every time I muled I basically lost 5 seconds to my own stupidity

 

[peytron]

When we're talking about using duel Grief on Whirlwind Barbarians, are you guys using phase blades? Currently my Barbarian is using a Grief phase blade and an Oath ethereal balrog blade. I have a Lo rune available and was wondering if I should go for duel Grief.

Thanks in advance!

I've made the second Grief in a phase blade now. Run speed has definitely improved by a few seconds. The best part is I was able to use a Token and could put 49 less points in strength.

 

[Tatterson]

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[Gripphon]

Travincal MF sorceress

I slightly changed gear again on a sorc and managed to get higher MF breakpoint and better survivability overall. Now I can't find any more upgrades for this approach except to pump more MF and reduce damage.

Spoiler: MF Travincal sorc

Shako (Ist)
Tal's amulet
Tal's armor (Ist)
Tal's belt
Spirit
Fathom with facet
Trang Claws gloves
War Travelers (50MF)
10 fcr/15MF/28life/[email protected] ring
20/19MF Wisp Projector

Inventory: 40MF Gheed, 7x skillers (use less if picking more items, I currently pick only jewels, rings and amulets plus useful unique items which I mule off by picking item and doing s/e)
Small charms with MF and resists

Skills are hardcoded into my build to suit the needs of goldfind sorc
20 Blizzard and all preq
9 Static Field (nice aim is 14 yards)
13 Cold Mastery
1 Warmth, Teleport, Telekinesis
Optional: 1 in some armor

Merc: eth Steel Shade (Cham), eth Fortitude, Infinity

Blizzard damage: ~8330
MF: 445
Resistances: 150 cold, 167 fire, 201 lightning

Running technique:
Blizzard, spam Static 4-5 times, Blizzard, then spamming Spike or Blast. Third Blizzard if needed, although most of the time everything is dead within few Blasts.

Potential upgrade is in replacing skillers with MF small charms since damage is of low relevance for Travincal, however I'm lazy to check where exactly starts the lower limit of damage when it will actually matter. I assume upgrade would be to use Ist Fathom and remove few skillers for 7MF charms. Perhaps players in the future will explore more into this option. I do think damage is of low relevance once she reaches like 6.5k or whatever, although it is still of some relevance for minor upgrade in killing speed.


Why MF?

Travincal is good source of jewelry, good amount of unique items like Titan's Revenge (you do want ethereal) and many more. Most notable item is Rainbow Facet, Travincal is the best place in the game to farm those apart from Mephisto who is only for building basic gear up. So, my logic is why not use this fact to the fullest? Potential drawback is this sorc has lower damage, however comparing this sorc with the one I did best set ever with 9.7k Blizzard damage, they are similarly fast. So, unless player decides to go full damage setup to actually gain 1 second or whatever of running time, having some MF (ideally 170+) does pay better than not having it.

 

[Gripphon]

On the topic of running: I realized yesterday that I was using Silo's Run Counter as if I was measuring average time only. That is after ending a run and restarting it I opened the character and immediately S&E. Sadly I didn't realize that the total time kept running through that. So every time I muled I basically lost 5 seconds to my own stupidity

Ignore total time played on that runcounter. I calculated my real total running time from number of runs times average runtime. That is something that can be controlled better. My runcounter usually showed 22 hours of playtime because of the problem you described plus it worked when I muled and didn't run at all, while real playing time was 20 hours.

 

[art_vandelay]

Thanks, that is a great idea!

My total time is 08:00:09 whereas '#runs' times 'average time' is 07:35:14. I would have basically cheated myself out of 25 minutes by using the total time

 

[Kitteh]

I can't imagine not picking up rare rings - Kitteh needs those FCR rings.

7.5 hours done - three qualifiers. No skillers or facets yet. Almost level 92, and I think that I will just hit 93 during the set.

 

[art_vandelay]

So after a dry streak of 600 runs without a qualifier the council drops a ... rune Together with that drop I got a unique ring and at this point to me it's already an SoJ

So I end the run and open GoMule. I manually remove the items around the the ... rune and the ring wanting to look at the ring last... So doing this I arrive at this lonely Grand Charm and hover the cursor over it:

Spoiler: SoJ Precursor

Spiritual Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 53
Fingerprint: 0xaf90c3ba
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Unidentified
+1 to Shape-Shifting Skills (Druid Only)
+34 to Life

They must have felt bad about dropping me a 27 Life one earlier and so they all pitched together to give me this, a ... rune and a Manald Heal

EDIT: Riddle me this: If I have 5 qualifiers, a score which isn't an integer, get a ... rune and afterwards have an integer score then what rune did I find?

 

[maxicek]

@Gripphon I thought rare amulets could not get +2 all skill in Trav. +2 to a tree still has nice possibilities though of course. My memory may be off though.

If I enter the game in A4 with a Sorc, I can reach the WP directly with TK, zap it and bring up the menu, but if I click the Trav button, nothing happens. I need to take a few steps for it to work. Is this the same for everyone?

Preferring the Barb compared to the Sorc though this time around.

 

[T72on1]

@Gripphon I thought rare amulets could not get +2 all skill in Trav. +2 to a tree still has nice possibilities though of course. My memory may be off though.

If I enter the game in A4 with a Sorc, I can reach the WP directly with TK, zap it and bring up the menu, but if I click the Trav button, nothing happens. I need to take a few steps for it to work. Is this the same for everyone?

Preferring the Barb compared to the Sorc though this time around.

I think you are correct on the amulets.

Same here for act 4 WP.

 

[EatSleepDiablov2]

I need to take a few steps for it to work. Is this the same for everyone?

Yes. Standard routine for LK runners...

 

[Gripphon]

@Gripphon I thought rare amulets could not get +2 all skill in Trav. +2 to a tree still has nice possibilities though of course. My memory may be off though.

They indeed can't get +2 skills if not ilvl90. I just want to see what can they offer for statistical purposes.

 

[Gripphon]

By accident checked one dropped item

Feels good. I'll share in the end what it is. Mostly p2p appreciated item, not really used in pvm. But still... yeah baby.

 

[Hutton]

5 hours in and one lowly qualifier in hand (emphasis on the low part).

Yikes.

I did find a 20/238 Ravenfrost, at least.

 

[LongingForDeath]

If I enter the game in A4 with a Sorc, I can reach the WP directly with TK, zap it and bring up the menu, but if I click the Trav button, nothing happens. I need to take a few steps for it to work. Is this the same for everyone?

Same for me.

 

[jjscud]

5 hours in and one lowly qualifier in hand (emphasis on the low part).

Yikes.

Same here. So far, runes per hour show almost a 2x improvement over cows and the odds say I was unlucky there so I'm hoping my luck picks up some time in the near future.